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Bangalore devotees reject Ritvikism

Letter COM:2494620 (83 lines)
From:      Vibhav Krishna (das) JPS (Bangalore - IN)
Date:      21-Jul-99 16:00
To:        Internet News [49485]
Subject:   Sub:" VOTE"

HARE KRISHNA

We reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate:

1)Vibhav Krishna dasa    Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

2)Harshavardhini dasi    Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

3)Narahari Caitanya dasa Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

4)Dakshi Devi dasi       Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

5)Sacidananda dasa       Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

6)Madhusudan Hari dasa   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

7)Radhashakti Devi dasi  Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

8)Hare Krishna dasa      Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

9)Subanjaya dasa         Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

10)Veeravati Devi dasi   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

11)Murali Murari dasa    Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

12)Swarnasakhi Devi dasi Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

13)Anukulya Kesav dasa   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

14)Sumantra Devi dasi    Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

15)Chandrapati dasa      Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

16)Radhika Devi dasi     Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

17)Mathura Sham dasa     Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

18)Rupeswari Devi dasi   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

19)Dharma Dhenu dasa     Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

20)Srikanta Krishna dasa Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

21)Narasimha Swami dasa  Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

22)Vatsal Radhika dasi   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

23)Sudhir Caitanya dasa  Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

24)TrivikramaKrishnadasa Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

25)Radhakrishna Gaurdasa Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

26)Kesava Gaura dasa     Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

27)Ramani Radhika dasi   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

28)Bala Gaura dasa       Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

29)Shanta Govinda dasa   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

30)Sarvavyapi dasa       Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

31)Vijayabhakti Devidasi Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

32)Sugati Krishna dasa   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

33)Acintya Radha dasi    Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

34)Ravindra Nitai dasa   Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

35)Caitanya Avatari dasa Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

36)Rasmayi Devi dasi     Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

37)Shandilya Rishi dasa  Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

38)Govinda dasa          Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

39)Golokeswara dasa      Bangalore    Harinam Diksha

40)Rama dasa             Bangalore    Harinam Diksha
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More Votes from Bangalore

Letter COM:2499480 (133 lines)
From:      Vibhav Krishna (das) JPS (Bangalore - IN)
Date:      23-Jul-99 12:04
To:        Internet News [49606]
Subject:   "VOTE"

                                HARE KRISHNA

We are devotees chanting Hare Krishna at home who have been inspired
by reading Srila Prabhupada's books and are following the teachings
of Srila Prabhupada and rendering service as per our ability.


We reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate:

1) Rajashekar S                  Bangalore           Guru Ashraya

2) Mallika R                     Bangalore           Guru Ashraya

3) Siddarth                      Bangalore           Congregation

4) Swarup                        Bangalore           Congregation

5) Prakash K                     Bangalore           Congregation

6) Sandhya P                     Bangalore           Congregation

7) Balakrishna                   Bangalore           Congregation

8) Sushila B                     Bangalore           Congregation

9) Meenakshi B                   Bangalore           Congregation

10) Pawankumar                   Bangalore           Congregation

11) Maya P                       Bangalore           Congregation

12) Ranganatha                   Bangalore           Congregation

13) Nirmala R                    Bangalore           Congregation

14) Priyanka R                   Bangalore           Congregation

15) Uma Kolaphure                Bangalore           Congregation

16) Gopalsa                      Bangalore           Congregation

17) Vinod S                      Bangalore           Congregation

18) Shravan T                    Bangalore           Congregation

19) Ramagopal                    Bangalore           Congregation

20) Lakshmi R                    Bangalore           Congregation

21) Venugopal Mrs                Bangalore           Congregation

22) Dallam Sethia                Bangalore           Congregation

23) Indra Sethia                 Bangalore           Congregation

24) Chetan D                     Bangalore           Congregation

25) Gautam Kumar                 Bangalore           Congregation

26) Rupesh Kumar                 Bangalore           Congregation

27) Satish Iyengar               Bangalore           Congregation

28) Rupa Iyengar                 Bangalore           Congregation

29) Nandini                      Bangalore           Congregation

30) Jyothi                       Bangalore           Congregation

31) Rashmi D                     Bangalore           Congregation

32) Minesh Patel                 Bangalore           Congregation

33) Kanayalal A                  Bangalore           Congregation

34) Mahima K                     Bangalore           Congregation

35) Nitin K                      Bangalore           Congregation

36) Abhishek K                   Bangalore           Congregation

37) Champaklal                   Bangalore           Congregation

38) Vinay C                      Bangalore           Congregation

39) Manju H                      Bangalore           Congregation

40) Rajani                       Bangalore           Congregation

41) Pradeep                      Bangalore           Congregation

42) Jaganath                     Bangalore           Congregation

43) Supriya M                    Bangalore           Congregation

44) Akhila                       Bangalore           Congregation

45) Deepak A                     Bangalore           Congregation

46) Anu A                        Bangalore           Congregation

47) Sanjeev A                    Bangalore           Congregation

48) Sunita Wadhwani              Bangalore           Congregation

49) Priyanka V                   Bangalore           Congregation

50) Veda V                       Bangalore           Congregation

51) Sandhya S                    Bangalore           Congregation

52) Janakiram                    Bangalore           Congregation

53) Guruprakash                  Bangalore           Congregation

54) Rajesh                       Bangalore           Congregation

55) Sureshbabu                   Bangalore           Congregation

56) Rajashekar                   Bangalore           Congregation

57) Uday Davda                   Bangalore           Congregation

58) Rajkumar                     Bangalore           Congregation

59) Rajeshsoni                   Bangalore           Congregation

60) Murlidar                     Bangalore           Congregation

More to follow...

Your servant,
Vibhav Krishna dasa.
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Letter COM:2493258 (27 lines)
From:      Laxmivan (das) PVS (Sydney - AU)
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:33
To:        Internet News [49438]
Subject:   Votes

Dear Prabhuji,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Here are a few votes, all in favour of Ajamila's annihilating the bogus "Ritvik" arguments.

Atmarama das ACBSP (Temple president ISKCON Sydney)
Laxmivan das  PVS (Head pujari, ISKCON Sydney)
Tulasi dasi  (Pujari),
Amsu das  PVS (Pujari)
Murari das das GGS (Pujari)

I could probably round up several more votes in favour of Ajamila. Most of our devotees here in Sydney regard this as a dead issue; one that had effectively been dealt with long ago and the pursuance of which constitutes a sad waste devotees valuable time. Most devotees, not having access to computers, etc., are unaware that such a debate was even going on! You are dealing with the minority. Apart from a very, very few heretics (one, actually), our whole community here in Sydney is in abhorrence of the bogus "Ritvik" so-called philosophy and the shamelessly offensive smear tactics that these people have for so long used to smoke screen this nonsense.

Y.s
Laxmivan das
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Letter COM:2490874 (9 lines)
From:      Abhinandana Nitai (das) JPS (Ljubljana - SLO)
Date:      20-Jul-99 11:56
To:        NO RITVIK [49333]
Subject:   vote
Hare Krisna!
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!
I am voting against neo-ritvikis!
firts initiation
Tempel Ljubljana!
y.s Abhinandana Nitai das

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Letter COM:2490943 (8 lines)
From:      Gourangi (dd) SPY (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      21-Jul-99 03:07
To:        NO RITVIK [49334]
Subject:   vote
i reject the rtviks
may srila prabhupad's movement go on as he intended.
your servant
gourangi dasi

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Letter COM:2490983 (3 lines)
From:      Madana Mohana (das) PGS (Rio de Janeiro - BR)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:30
To:        NO RITVIK [49335]
Subject:   Vote
Pamho!AgtSP! My name is: Madana Mohana das from Rio de Janeiro- Status:
Second initiation since 1988 - My occupation is:Treasurer of Iskcon-RJ
Espiritual Master: Param Gacit Swami - I live outside- Married.
I reject the ritvik conclusions of Adhridharan.

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Letter COM:2490997 (11 lines)
From:      Romapada (das) GKG (London - UK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:11
To:        NO RITVIK [49338]
Subject:   VOTE
I reject the philosophy of Ritvikism being advocated by Adhridarana Dasa on
Chakra and vote in favour of Ajamila Prabhu.

Your Servant,
Romapada dasa
North Wembley, Middx
Nearest Temple: Bhaktivedanta Manor

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Letter COM:2491013 (8 lines)
From:      Atapatrini (dd) HKS (NE-BBT)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:41
To:        NO RITVIK [49339]
Subject:   VOTE
PAMHO, AGTSP & ISKCON Guru's.
My name is Atapatrini devi dasi
I am living in New Radhadakund, Korsnaes Gaard, S-147 92 Groedinge, Sweden
I am first initiated by former Harikesa Maharaja
I reject the ritviksm presented in the CHAKRA debate
Your servant, Atapatrini devi dasi

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Letter COM:2491018 (4 lines)
From:      Bhanu Swami (Madras - IN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:46
To:        NO RITVIK [49340]
Subject:   vote
Name: Bhanu Swami
Place: Madras, India
Status:  temple president
Vote:  No Rtvik

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Letter COM:2491019 (3 lines)
From:      Madhavi (dd) BBS (Abentheuer - D)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:47
To:        NO RITVIK [49341]
Subject:   vote
I am Madhavi dd, a disciple of Bhakti-bhusana Swami. I live in the grhastha
Asrama nearby Abentheuer, Goloka Dhama, Germany. I vote against ritvikism
presented on the Chakra-Page.

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Letter COM:2491020 (3 lines)
From:      Parivadi (das) HKS (Abentheuer - D)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:48
To:        NO RITVIK [49342]
Subject:   vote
My name is Parivadi das, initiated disciple of Ex-Harikesa Swami. I am
situated as grhastha nearby Goloka dhama, Abentheuer, Germany! I am herewith
vote against ritvikism presented on the chakra-Web-page.

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Letter COM:2491024 (7 lines)
From:      Tribhuvanatha das
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:49
To:        NO RITVIK [49343]
Subject:   vote
I support Srila Prabhupada. Ajamila prabhu, you're doing a great job!
Name: Tribhuvanatha das
full time devotee, all life!
currently in chennai. (from mayapur gurukula)
ys,

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Letter COM:2491026 (2 lines)
From:      Vairagya-laksmi (dd) SS (Helsinki - FIN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:52
To:        NO RITVIK [49344]
Subject:   VOTE
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate. It's a total
nonsense.

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Letter COM:2491028 (2 lines)
From:      Purnaprajna (das) SS (Helsinki - FIN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:53
To:        NO RITVIK [49345]
Subject:   VOTE
I consider rtvik a demoniac concept. Thus I reject the ritvikism presented
in the CHAKRA debate.

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Letter COM:2491046 (16 lines)
From:      Narmada (dd) JPS (Copenhagen - DK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 12:58
To:        NO RITVIK [49346]
Subject:   "Vote"
Dear Prabhus,
Pamho. AgtSP!
1.My name is Narmada dd. I live in Copenhagen, Denmark, and am engaged
in full time service in the Preaching center in Cph. I am first
initiated.
I reject ritvikism presented in CHAKRA debate.
2. My name is Isa Bhakti dd, I am a congregational devotee from
Copenhagen, Denmark. I am first initiated by H.H. Srila Jajapataka
Swami.
I reject ritvikism presented in CHAKRA debate.
3. My name is bh. Tihomir Mucibabic. I am part of the congregation in
Copenhagen Denmark, and am serving in the Preaching center there.
I reject ritvikism presented in CHAKRA debate.

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Letter COM:2491052 (6 lines)
From:      Gauracandranana (dd) BVKS (Ljubljana -SLO)
Date:      20-Jul-99 13:02
To:        NO RITVIK [49347]
Subject:   vote
Gauracandranana devi dasi, Ljubljana temple, 1st initiated
I reject completely and altogether the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA
debate!!!
ysg

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Letter COM:2491074 (9 lines)
From:      Malati Manjari (dd) BCS (Wiesbaden - D)
Date:      20-Jul-99 13:20
To:        NO RITVIK [49348]
Subject:   Vote
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Mein spiritual name is Malati Manjari dasi, initiated by HH Bhakti Charu
Maharaj in 1995. The nearest temple I leave by is Goloka Dham, Abentheuer.
I reject the Ritvik philosophy represented in Cakra.
your servant
malati manjari dasi

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Letter COM:2491089 (8 lines)
From:      Sundarananda (das) IDS (Moscow - R)
Date:      20-Jul-99 13:32
To:        NO RITVIK [49349]
Subject:   vote
Name: Sundarananda das, disciple of Srila Indradyumna Swami
Temple: Moscow, Russia
Spiritual status: not sure what it means :)
Devotional service: Moscow BBT, administrative
I REJECT THE RTVIKISM PRESENTED IN THE CHAKRA DEBATE (or anywhere else :)
Your servant, Sundarananda das

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Letter COM:2491094 (7 lines)
From:      Vijnana (das) HKS (Moscow - R)
Date:      20-Jul-99 13:33
To:        NO RITVIK [49350]
Subject:   vote
Please accept my obeisances. Jaya Srila Prabhupada.
I am Vijnana dasa, initiated by Harikesa Maharaj. I live in Moscow, Russia,
my service is ISKCON communications. I reject rtviks and their theory as it
was presented by them in CHAKRA debates.
ys Vijnana dasa

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Letter COM:2491096 (8 lines)
From:      Marici (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 13:34
To:        NO RITVIK [49351]
Subject:   My vote for Ajamila Prabhu
My Spiritual Name is: Marici Das
Temple: ISKCON-Mayapur
Grhasta
I fully reject the Ritvikism Filosophy
So, I give my vote to Ajamila Das Adhikari
Your servant,
Marici das

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Letter COM:2491181 (6 lines)
From:      Ananda Maya (dd) PDA (NE-BBT)
Date:      20-Jul-99 14:00
To:        NO RITVIK [49353]
Subject:   VOTE
Name: Ananda Maya dd
Temple: NE-BBT, Korsnas gard (Sweden)
First initiation
I reject the ritvikism in the CHAKRA webside!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
y.s.
AnandaMaya dd

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Letter COM:2491194 (2 lines)
From:      Mathuresh (das) BCS (Copenhagen - DK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 14:08
To:        NO RITVIK [49354]
Subject:   vote
Mathuresh das, initiated disciple of H.H. Bhakti-caru Swami, vote against
the ritvik rascals

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Letter COM:2491201 (5 lines)
From:      Suhotra Swami
Date:      20-Jul-99 14:11
To:        NO RITVIK [49355]
Subject:   Vote
Spiritual name: Suhotra Swami
Nearest temple: Oslo, Norway
Spiritual status: If you say so
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

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Letter COM:2491215 (1 line)
From:      (Bhakta) Claus Jensen (New Srivas Angam - DK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 14:19
To:        NO RITVIK [49356]
Subject:   vote
I vote against the ritvik fools

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Letter COM:2491239 (7 lines)
From:      Ekatma (das) SS (Helsinki - FIN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 14:28
To:        NO RITVIK [49357]
Subject:   VOTE
My name is
Ekatma das,
temple Helsinki,
status 2nd initiated,
and I utterly reject the
disease of Ritvik illusionism
in whatever form it may appear.

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Letter COM:2491323 (11 lines)
From:      Balarama (das) LOK (Alachua, FL - USA)
Date:      20-Jul-99 14:49
To:        NO RITVIK [49358]
Subject:   vote
Name:               Balarama LOK
Temple:                        Alachua
Standing:            Good
Ritvik:               Bogus - Ajamila won
Wife:
Name:               Sita Priya RNS
Temple:                        Alachua
Standing:            Good
Ritvik:               Bodus - Ajamila Won

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Letter COM:2491351 (5 lines)
From:      Navina Nirada (das)
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:04
To:        NO RITVIK [49359]
Subject:   vote
navina nirada dasa
zurich temple
BDM minister
I vote against ritvik philosophies
ys nnd

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Letter COM:2491364 (1 line)
From:      (Bhakta) Michael Nielsen (New Srivas Angam - DK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:05
To:        NO RITVIK [49360]
Subject:   Vote
I vote against the Ritviks.

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Letter COM:2491390 (18 lines)
From:      Internet: parker.baines <parker.baines@easynet.co.uk>
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:15
To:        NO RITVIK [49361]
Subject:   VOTE
Below are the votes of My wife and I

Sri Thakur Mahasaya das (IDS)
Romford Nama hata/Bhaktivedanta Manor
Grahasta
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate

Jami devi dasi (ACBSP)
Romford Nama hata/Bhaktivedanta Manor
Grahasta
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate

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Letter COM:2491397 (10 lines) [W1]
From:      Aprameya (dd) (Copenhagen - DK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:13
To:        NO RITVIK [49362]
Subject:   Vote
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
My name is Aprameya dd, I live in Copenhagen, Denmark. New Srivasangam
(Bauneholm) in Hillerød is my nearest temple. I'm married to Yadunandan das.
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
Ys
Aprameya dd

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Letter COM:2491407 (7 lines)
From:      Jayasri (dd) VMS (Crescent City, CA - USA)
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:15
To:        NO RITVIK [49363]
Subject:   VOTE
My name is Jayasri devi dasi, first initiated
My nearest temple: Berekely, CA
This letter is to state that I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA
debate. Ritvikism is faulty, speculative, and has no place in Srila
Prabhupada's ISKCON.

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Letter COM:2491423 (8 lines)
From:      (Bhakta) Boguslaw Pyz (Opole - PL)
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:24
To:        NO RITVIK [49364]
Subject:   VOTE
PAMHO.AGTSP!
My name is bhakta Boguslaw Pyz and I live near Wroclaw's Temple in Poland.
I live in a grihasta asrama.
I reject ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate
YS
Boguslaw Pyz

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Letter COM:2491424 (8 lines)
From:      Internet: Sudarshana Dasa <sudarsam@brhs.com.br>
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:13
To:        NO RITVIK [49365]
Subject:   VOTE
Pamho! AGTSP!
Dear Vaishnavas,
I reject the practice of the ritvikism presented in the debate of CHAKRA.
yours servant
Sudarshana das

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Letter COM:2491425 (8 lines)
From:      Internet: Sudarshana Dasa <sudarsam@brhs.com.br>
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:15
To:        NO RITVIK [49366]
Subject:   VOTE
Pamho! AGTSP!
Dear Vaishnavas,
    I reject the practice of the ritvikism presented in the debate of CHAKRA.
yours servant,
                       Prema Pumartha devi dasi

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Letter COM:2491432 (2 lines)
From:      Yogindra (das) ACBSP (Almvik - S)
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:31
To:        NO RITVIK [49367]
Subject:   vote
Yogindra dasa from the Almvik farm near Stockholm, Sweden hearby votes
against the ritvikism presented in the chakra debate.

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Letter COM:2491519 (2 lines)
From:      (Bhaktin) Daniela Vivoda (Soho St, London - UK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 15:52
To:        NO RITVIK [49368]
Subject:   Vote
My name is Daniela and I am living in Soho temple.I am voting against
ritvikism presented in the chakra debate.

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Letter COM:2491538 (8 lines)
From:      Pandava Sakha (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 16:02
To:        NO RITVIK [49369]
Subject:   VOTE
Name: Pandava Sakha Das
Temple:            Sri MAyapur Chandrodaya Mandir
Status:            Brahmacari brahmin initiated

I reject the Ritvik arguments all together.
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Letter COM:2491549 (5 lines)
From:      Yojanagandha (dd) RSD (Mannheim - D)
Date:      20-Jul-99 16:04
To:        NO RITVIK [49370]
Subject:   VOTE!
I, Yojanagandha dd, vote against! the ritvikism presented in the "CHAKRA"
debate. Long live the ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada - ki jay!!!
My nearest temple is in Heidelberg (Germany)
Spiritual status-brahmacari

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Letter COM:2491564 (6 lines)
From:      Rohini Suta (das) ACBSP (GBC)
Date:      20-Jul-99 16:04
To:        NO RITVIK [49371]
Reference: Text COM:2490086 by Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB)
Subject:   Vote
Rohinisuta das
GBC
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
Rohinisuta das

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Letter COM:2491614 (12 lines)
From:      Hari Kirtan (das) BVKS (Baroda - IN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 16:29
To:        NO RITVIK [49373]
Subject:   vote!
Hare Krishna!
PAMHO!
AGTSP!
My name is Hari Kirtan dasa, and i am living in Baroda temple, Gujarat,
India am praying to be strict follower of Srila Prabhupad, and as such i
completely reject and consider offensive all these nonsense theories of
"Ritvik-Vada" . And i am giving thousand  of votes against that "MAYA"-
(That which is not)!!!.
                                                  Your humble servant.
                                                  Sri Hari jana kinkara
                                                  Hari Kirtan dasa.

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Letter COM:2491697 (21 lines)
From:      Deva Deva (das) TSSP (Ashcroft, BC - CAN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:00
To:        NO RITVIK [49374]
Subject:   VOTE
Dear Ajamila Prabhu,
Please accept my most respectful obeisances. All glories to Srila
Prabhupada.
spiritual name:Devadeva dasa
spiritual status:brahmacari
nearest temple:Saranagati Farm
I, Devadeva dasa, reject ritvikism as presented in the CHAKRA debate.
May Srila Prabhupada guide you well in his mission.
May Lord Caitanya and Lord Nityananda help you in your spiritual progress.
May Sri Sri Radha-Govinda always watch over you and keep you safe from harm.
May Tulasi devi invite you to help Her in decorating the forest groves of
Vrndavana for Her beloved Sri Sri Radha-Govinda.
May the Vaisnavas see your qualities.
I remain,
Your eternal servant,
Devadeva dasa

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Letter COM:2491705 (4 lines)
From:      Janaka Maharaj (das) SDHS (Jesenice - SLO)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:01
To:        NO RITVIK [49375]
Subject:   vote
My name is Janaka Maharaj das, disciple of HH Sridhar Swami.
Nearest temple is in Ljubljana, Slovenia.
I have first initiation.
I reject ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate.

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Letter COM:2491715 (5 lines)
From:      Sacisuta (das) SRS (Nai - H)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:05
To:        NO RITVIK [49376]
Subject:   VOTE
Sacisuta das (2nd init.)
Budapest Temple, Hungary
I reject the ritvikism philosophy.

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Letter COM:2493338 (86 lines)
From:      Caitanya Nitai (das) GRS (Auckland - NZ)
Date:      21-Jul-99 07:49
To:        Internet News [49439]
Subject:   Votes

Dear Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada and to all his faithful servants.

  I, Caitanya Nitai dasa, my wife Goloka Prema devi dasi and my daughter
Citralekha devi dasi (she is initiated), living in the ISKCON - New Varshan
farm community near Auckland, New Zealand, want to advise you that we reject
the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

  I would also like to add that we are voting because we find this ritvik
theory stupid and danderous, but we think that neither you nor ISKCON
authorities are addressing the root problem.

  I sent a long report to a few ISKCON authorities last January, including
about 260 quotations from Srila Prabhupada. I received only few answers, all
very appreciative though.

  In a few words, I mention in this report what Srila Prabhupada's most
essential instructions are (sadhana, preaching,etc...), that many devotees
including many leaders do not strictly follow these basic points, which has
caused a general weakening of ISKCON and a number of falldowns. As a result,
faith in general has decreased a lot, particularly faith in the leaders and
in the gurus.

  Since faith is practically the most important factor in a devotee's life,
and since many devotees have to some degree lost faith in ISKCON leaders, in
order to spiritually survive, they felt the need to get deeply connected
with the most powerful devotee, Srila Prabhupada.

  Now, the point regarding ritvikism is that some of these devotees thought
that, "In order to feel mysel deeply, strongly connected with Srila
Prabhupada, I have to consider myself an initiated disciple of Srila
Prabhupada". This is wrong. I have shown in my report that all ISKCON
devotees can have a deep, strong relationship with Srila Prabhupada as
Adi-Guru, or Founder-Acarya, or Param Siksa-Guru. This is a living reality,
there is no need to be initiated by Srila prabhupada to feel this deep
connection. It is simply a question of proper understanding.
  And of course, this "rivikism" is in neither supported by Srila
Prabhupada's teachings nor any other Scripture.

  Besides this, Srila Prabhupada strongly stressed that his disciples must
work within ISKCON and cooperate with ISKCON, and I feel that most of the
"pro-ritvik devotees" have a serious problem in this regard, they want to
use their theory to become independent and act as they want. This is a major
contradiction, and to my understanding, the biggest danger in this regard. I
have shown in my report that anybody who considers himself a disciple of
Srila Prabhupada, wether diksa- or siksa-disciple, must work for ISKCON in
cooperation with ISKCON authorities. Anybody who does not want to do this is
certainly not a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, wether he was initiated by
Srila prabhupada or not does not make any difference.

  Last, to my understanding, the remedy to this terrible sickness affecting
ISKCON, the decrease of faith, lies in two points:
- as mentioned above, helping the devotees to develop a deep, strong
relationship with Srila Prabhupada.
- strictly following Srila Prabhupada's most essential instructions, which
will make our leaders and all the devotees stronger and automatically
increase faith in general.

  However after submitting my report to a few devotees, I was very much
surprised and disappointed to see that, although they cannot disagree with
the essential points, they still do not want to put them into practice. What
to do?
  For example, in at least 30 quotations Srila Prabhupada says that the key
to success in spiritual life is to rigidly attend the whole morning
programme everyday. He also says in about 20 different quotations that
anybody who does this will develop a great spiritual strength. He also says
in many different places that the slightest neglect in regard to these basic
principles will CAUSE ANY OTHER THING WE MAY TRY TO FAIL.
  However most devotees, including many leaders, won't do it. They will
simply make meeting after meeting, write tons of letters, spending a lot of
time and energy, to eventually go ... nowhere.

  What about your sadhana, Prabhu?

  Regarding Adridharana Prabhu, I would like him to do a simple thing: go
before Lord Nrsimhadeva's Deity in our Mayapur temple (with two other
witnesses) and say
- how many rouds he has chanted during the past twelve months
- how much money he has taken from the ISKCON-Calcutta's collection for his
own maintenance during the past twelve months.

Your friend and servant,

Caitanya nitai dasa
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Letter COM:2493399 (5 lines)
From:      Rati Manjari (dd) BCS (Cape Town - SA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 08:14
To:        Internet News [49440]
Subject:   VOTE

Rati Manjari dasi, ISKCON Cape Town.

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Hare Krishna!
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Letter COM:2493440 (6 lines)
From:      Lilasuka (das) BCS (Radhadesh - B)
Date:      21-Jul-99 08:26
To:        Internet News [49441]
Subject:   Vote

Lilasukha dasa
Radhadesh Belgium
Brahmacari

I reject ritvikism represented in the Chakra Debate
 
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Letter COM:2493508 (15 lines)
From:      Ajamidha (das) (Helsinki - FIN)
Date:      21-Jul-99 08:52
To:        Jayapataka Swami (GBC) [47494]  (received: 22-Jul-99 04:51)
To:        Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB) [9602]  (received: 21-Jul-99
           09:27)
To:        Internet News [49442]
Reference: Text COM:2488183 by Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB)
Comment:   Text COM:2495517 by Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB)
Subject:   Easy voting against ritviks on COM

 I voted on chakra web page, and it worked fine, thank you.

I got an idea. You could be wise to invite those court people for a
wonderful prasadam feast plus some kind of presentation which will convince
them that without basis of sadhu, shastra and guru the court has no right to
decide for ISKCON gurus to stop initiating. Lets say you invest 10 000 USD
in this feast plus presentation (might include flying in some respected
pundits from  south India for their valued view on the subject matter. etc)
and you save some 100 000 in legal expences, that would not be so bad, I
suppose?! This seems to be something arranged by Krishna to get the legal
system of India on our side...

 Do the judges know that Srila Bhaktivinode Thakura was a judge by
profession, and probably the best one India has ever seen?! Did Bhaktivinode
handle any similar case? I doubt, it's so ridiculous...,  ys.
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Letter COM:2493515 (4 lines)
From:      Dharmaksetra (das) SS (Den Haag - NL)
Date:      21-Jul-99 08:55
To:        Internet News [49443]
Subject:   Vote

Spiritual name:Dharmaksetra das
Nearest temple:Amsterdam
Spiritual status:Brahman
Vote:I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2493567 (19 lines)
From:      Internet: "Naidoo, YugoY" <NaidooY@scmb.co.za>
Date:      21-Jul-99 09:11
To:        Internet News [49444]
Subject:   I  reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

            Spiritual name :YugaNathan
            Nearest temple : Lenasia, South Africa
            Spiritual status : Grhasta


I  reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

 


Thanks

Regards
Yugo Naidoo  (Gaura Nitai Consulting)

SCMB:(2711) 636-1473
CELL - (2783)-453-1395
Email (SCMB)             : naidooy@scmb.co.za <mailto:naidooy@scmb.co.za>
Email (office)             : gauranitai@mweb.co.za <mailto:gauranitai@mweb.co.za>
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Letter COM:2493580 (9 lines)
From:      Dharana-mayi (dd) KKD (Torun - PL)
Date:      21-Jul-99 09:22
To:        Internet News [49445]
Subject:   vote

pamho!agtSP!


My name is Dharana-mayi devi dasi I live near New Ramana Reti temple
Warsaw Poland. I am second initiated by Srila Krsna-ksetra Prabhu.
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

ys
Dharana-mayi dasi
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Letter COM:2493608 (2 lines)
From:      Rasasthali (dd) PSD (Cape Town - SA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 09:36
To:        Internet News [49446]
Subject:   vote

Rasasthali dasi, second initiated, full time devotee serving in Iskcon Cape
Town.  I reject the rivikism presented in the cakra debate.
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Letter COM:2493636 (4 lines)
From:      Dhira-lalita (das) BBGS (Rickmansworth - UK)
Date:      21-Jul-99 09:46
To:        Internet News [49447]
Subject:   vote

Dhira-lalita dasa, near Bhaktivedanta Manor, received second initiation
April 1998.

Vote to reject the ritvik presentation in the Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2493642 (4 lines)
From:      Hiranyangi (dd) SPY (Rickmansworth  UK)
Date:      21-Jul-99 09:48
To:        Internet News [49448]
Subject:   vote

Hiranyangi dasi, daughter of initiated devotees, aspiring to become a
disciple of His Holiness BB Govinda swami.  Live near the Manor.

Vote to reject the ritvik presentation in the Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2493650 (4 lines)
From:      Madana-mohana-mohini (dd) MG (Rickmansworth - UK)
Date:      21-Jul-99 09:50
To:        Internet News [49449]
Subject:   vote

Madana-mohana-mohini devi dasi, near Bhaktivedanta Manor, received
initiation May 1998.

Vote to reject the ritvik presentation in the Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2493656 (11 lines)
From:      Nityananda-priya (dd) SNS (Abentheuer - D)
Date:      21-Jul-99 09:54
To:        Internet News [49450]
Subject:   vote

My name is Nityananda-priya d.d., I feel close to Goloka Dhama in
Abentheuer. I have got diksa initiation, while still living in
Mainz, in vanaprastha. As a theologian I have studied many books written by
Srila Prabhupada and about him which led me to the conclusion that Srila
Prabhupada wanted his disciples to become initiating gurus, not just fake
gurus performing a certain ceremony. Even if many gurus have given up their
service that does not mean that the initiation they gave in good standard is
without effect. Even Catholic priests being in the state of deadly sins can
perform sacraments in a valuable way!
I want to clearly support the ISKCON viewpoint and to reject ritvikism.
Nityananda-priya d.d.
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Letter COM:2494917 (7 lines)
From:      Mathuranatha (das) RSD (Zagreb - HR)
Date:      21-Jul-99 18:15
To:        Internet News [49498]
Subject:   vote

Hare Krishna.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
My name is Mathuranatha das and I belong to Zagreb temple ,Croatia.
I am member of this movement about 10 years and I am initiated by Sri Rohini
suta Prabhu.
I fully support ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada and I am rejecting ritviks.
Haribol!
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Letter COM:2494921 (13 lines)
From:      Srinjaya (das) BCS (Mauritius)
Date:      21-Jul-99 18:18
To:        Internet News [49499]
Subject:   Vote

Spiritual name: Srinjaya Das

Nearest temple: Sri krishna Balaram Mandir, Hare Krishna Rd, Vrindaban,
Mauritius.

Spiritual status: Second Initiated, Namahatta leader, temple's secretary,
member of divisional council,member of PR department of the
Mauritian Iskcon Yatra.

I'm rejecting the ritvikism.

Ys
Srinjaya Das
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Letter COM:2494943 (9 lines)
From:      Rasa Rasika (dd) IDS (Sarajevo - BiH)
Date:      21-Jul-99 18:37
To:        Internet News [49500]
Subject:   Vote

Hare Krishna,
PAMHO, AGTSP

My vote is against the ritvikism.

Your servant,
Rasa Rasika dasi
Temple Sarajevo,
Bosnia and Herzegovina.
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Letter COM:2494960 (7 lines)
From:      Tat Purusa (das) BVS (Ljubljana - SLO)
Date:      21-Jul-99 18:51
To:        Internet News [49501]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Tat Purusa das, I live in Slovenia, Ljubljana, where is also the
temple. I am more than 6 years in the movement and I completely reject the
ritvik philosophy and I vote for Ajamila Prabhu. The same goes also for my
wife Padmasundari who is also more than 6 years in ISKCON. So we both vote
for Ajamila prabhu.

Hare Krishna
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Letter COM:2495040 (18 lines)
From:      Pradyumna (das) PGS (Lisbon - P)
Date:      21-Jul-99 19:26
To:        Internet News [49502]
Subject:   vote

the following devotees of iskcon Portugal rejects completly this bogus idea
of rittvik
Pradyumna das
vrnda devi d.d.
Nityananda das
Lakshmi devi d.d.
Locana das
Radha govinda das
Gopala priya d.d.
dhira krishna das
prahladesh das
jnana shakti das
purushottama das
bhakta eliar
bhakta mauro
bhaktin Eurica
bhaktin Liliana
Nila madhava d.d.
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Letter COM:2495071 (4 lines)
From:      (Bhakta) Gena Kuchergin (Yoshkar-Ola - R)
Date:      21-Jul-99 19:39
To:        Internet News [49503]
Subject:   vote

Bhakta Gena Kuchergin, nearest temple Kazan yatra, aspiring disciple
Lokanath Swami

I'm rejecting ritvik theory
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Letter COM:2495076 (5 lines)
From:      Rasa Priya (dd) MG (USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 19:44
To:        Internet News [49504]
Subject:   Vote

Name: Rasa Priya dasi
Temple: New Hastinapur, Potomac, Washington DC
Status: Head Pujari

I reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2495116 (50 lines)
From:      Bharat (das) TKG (Cebu - PHI)
Date:      21-Jul-99 20:10
To:        Internet News [49505]
Subject:   VOTE

Temple: Hare Krishna Paradise
        231 Greenview Subdivision, Pagsabungan Road
        Mandaue City 6014
        Cebu, Philippines


We reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate.


Bhadrasena dasa - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Bharata dasa - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Candra Sekhara dasa - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Govinda dasa - 2nd initiated/brahmacari
Isvara Puri dasa - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Jagadananda Pandit dasa - 2nd initiated/brahmacari
Janaka Rsi dasa - 1st initiated/barhmacari
Janamejaya dasa - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Jaya Gauranga dasa - 1st initiated/brahmacari
Jugala Kisor dasa - 2nd initiated/brahmacari
Lila Purusa dasa - 1st initiated/grhastha
Mandali Bhadra dasa - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Narada Rsi dasa - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Ojasvi dasa - 2nd initiated/brahmacari
Ramanatha dasa - 1st initiated/brahmacari
Radha Mohan dasa - 1st initiated/grhastha
Vaisnava dasa - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Virabhadra dasa - 2nd initiated/brahmacari


Candrika devi dasi - 1st initiated/brahmacarini
Danistha devi dasi - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Jaya Priya devi dasi - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Jaya Radhe devi dasi - 1st initiated/brahmacarini
Krpamayi devi dasi - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Lalita Sundari devi dasi - 1st initiated/grhastha
Madhavi devi dasi - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Malika devi dasi - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Manjula devi dasi - 1st initiated/grhastha
Mitravinda devi dasi - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Ratnavali devi dasi - 2nd initiated/grhastha
Yuthesvari devi dasi - 2nd initiated/grhastha


Bhakta Haridasa - brahmacari
Bhakta Kenneth - brahmacari
Bhaktin Mahadvadasi - brahmacarini
Bhaktin Maricar - brahmacarini
Bhaktin Parvati - grhastha
Bhakta Reynante - grhastha
Bhakta Toto - grhastha
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Letter COM:2495136 (7 lines)
From:      Sitapriya (dd) JPS (Ljubljana - SLO)
Date:      21-Jul-99 20:29
To:        Internet News [49506]
Subject:   VOTE

HARE KRISHNA!PAMHO,AGTSP!

My name is Sitapriya d.d..I live in Ljubljana-Slovenia.I am architect and
TV producer.
I vote against ritvikism presented on Chakra web.

Your servant,Sitapriya d.d..
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Letter COM:2495138 (6 lines)
From:      Mahamurti (das) HKS (Ljubljana - SLO)
Date:      21-Jul-99 20:34
To:        Internet News [49507]
Subject:   VOTE

HARE KRISHNA!PAMHO,AGTSP!

My name is Mahamurti das.I am serving as TP in Ljubljana-Slovenia.
I am against ritvikism presented on CHAKRA web.

Your servant,Mahamurti das.
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Letter COM:2495143 (5 lines)
From:      Jaya Jagannatha (das) PDA (Eugene, OR - USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 20:36
To:        Internet News [49508]
Subject:   Vote

For Ajamila das

From Jaya Jagannatha das PDA
Portland - Eagle Creek Temple
Status - 5 Years initiated, second.
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Letter COM:2495166 (4 lines) [W1]
From:      Tejasvini (dd) HKS (Bauneholm - DK)
Date:      21-Jul-99 20:43
To:        Internet News [49509]
Subject:   VOTE

Me,Tejasvini dd (Taina Piippola) and Bh,Marco Bang-Mikkelsen,
living in the temple area of New srivas angan,or the temple in
Hillerød,Denmark,wish to reject the Ritvik-ideas and vote against them in
the chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2495224 (8 lines)
From:      Krishna premavati (dd) BCS (Amsterdam - NL)
Date:      21-Jul-99 21:08
To:        Internet News [49510]
Subject:   VOTE AGAINST RITVIK

NAME: Krishna Premavati
Temple: Amsterdam
Spiritual status: congregation member, initiated in 1976, reinitiated 1992
Worked in Iskcon as pujari, bookkeeper for several years.

I reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate. I am convinced that
this is against the principles of Hari, Guru & Vaisnava, as followed in our
Brahma-Madhva-Gaudiya Sampradaya.
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Letter COM:2495301 (2 lines)
From:      Bal Krsna (das) GKG (Moscow - R)
Date:      21-Jul-99 22:09
To:        Internet News [49511]
Subject:   VOTE

My name is Bal Krishna das, (Moscow, grihastha asram)
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2495315 <CIS:187953> (2 lines)
From:      CIS: Savitri (dd) IDS (Moscow) <Savitri.IDS@cis.bbt.se>
Date:      21-Jul-99 22:10
To:        Internet News [49512]
Subject:   VOTE

My name is Savitri dasi (Moscow, grihastha asram)
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2495345 (4 lines)
From:      Internet: Isvara Krsna das <ikd@kcbank.almaty.kz>
Date:      21-Jul-99 23:26
To:        Internet News [49513]
Subject:   vote

I'm Isvara Krishna das brahmachari. My spiritual master's Srila Prabhavishnu
Swami.
Yatra is ISKCON Almaty in Republic of Kazakhstan. I live at home and work at an
office.
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Letter COM:2495392 (3 lines)
From:      Radha Krsna (das) ACBSP GB (Great Britain)
Date:      21-Jul-99 23:06
To:        Internet News [49514]
Subject:   Vote

Radha krsna das, Bhaktivedanta Manor.

I vote against Ritvikism as stated on the Cakra webpage.
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Letter COM:2495393 (3 lines)
From:      Radha Krsna (das) ACBSP GB (Great Britain)
Date:      21-Jul-99 23:06
To:        Internet News [49515]
Subject:   Vote

Bhaktin Amie - Bhaktivedanta Manor

Vote against Ritvikism as stated in the Cakra Webpage.
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Letter COM:2495403 (3 lines)
From:      (Bhakta) Jason Rapp (Melbourne - AU)
Date:      21-Jul-99 23:26
To:        Internet News [49516]
Subject:   vote

Please accept my humble obeisances, all glories to Srila Prabhupada.My name
is Bhakta Jason I serve at Melbourne Mahaprabhu Mandir.I vote against the
Ritvic arguement and follow the GBC.
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Letter COM:2495404 (6 lines)
From:      Janmastami (das) SDG (Mayapur Education - IN)
Date:      21-Jul-99 23:27
To:        Internet News [49517]
Cc:        Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB) [9646]  (received: 21-Jul-99
           23:35)
Subject:   Vote

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I suport Ajamila prabhu's presentation and reject Adri prabhu's.

Your servant,
Janmastami das
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Letter COM:2495548 (7 lines)
From:      Bhagavatamrita (das) RSD (Belgrade - YU)
Date:      22-Jul-99 00:28
To:        Internet News [49519]
Subject:   VOTE

Bhagavatamrita das, Temple Skopje, Macedonia, first initiation got from Sri
Rohini Suta Prabhu.

Anandini devi dasi, temple Skopje, Macedonia, first and second initiation
got from Sri Rohini Suta prabhu.

WE REJECT THE RITVIKISM!!!
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Letter COM:2495561 (69 lines)
From:      Kamadhenu (dd) TKG (Dallas, TX - USA)
Date:      22-Jul-99 00:45
To:        Internet News [49520]
Subject:   VOTE

Multiple votes from the Dallas Temple community:

WE REJECT THE RIKTIVISM PRESENTED IN THE CHAKRA DEBATE:

1.  Bhakti devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second intitiate.
2.  Daruka dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate.
3.  Sveta-manjari devi dasi, Dallas Temple, first initiate
4.  Caitanya Candra dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
5.  Nila Madhava devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
6.  Cakri dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
7.  Visnu Priya devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
8.  Candravali devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
9.  Anuradha dasi, Dallas Temple, non-initiate
10. Devaprastha dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
11. Dharma-bhavana dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
12. Jai Govinda devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
13. Dhiralalita devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
14. Gaura-Nataraja dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
15. Saci Priya devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
16. Harideva dasa, Dallas Temple, first initiate
17. Ishan dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
18. Jitavrata dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
19. Gopali devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
20. Kardama Muni dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
21. Purnima devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
22. Kaustubha dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
23. Laksmi devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
24. Radha Govinda devi dasi, Dallas Temple, first initiate
25. Lilavati devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
26. Mirabhai, Dallas Temple, second initiate
27. Misra Bhagavan dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
28. Prajapati dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
29. Radhanatha dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
30. Radhika dasi, Dallas Temple, non-initiate
31. Syamananda dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
32. Uddhava dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
33. Vakresvara Pandit dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
34. Janaki devi dasi, Dallas Temple, first initiate
35. Ruciranana devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
36. Jaya Balarama dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
37. Priya-darshan dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
38. Padaduli devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
39. Mahatma dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
40. Jahnava devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
41. Jivananda dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
42. Dharma dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
43. Bhakti-lata devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
44. Devananda devi dasi, Dallas Temple, first initiate
45. Bhakta Raul, Dallas Temple, non-initiate
46. Lalana devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
47. Langa Ganesh dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
48. Lalita-Krsna dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
49. Danakeli dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
50. Jaya-Subhadra devi dasi, Dallas Temple, first initiate
51. Kalayani devi dasi, Dallas Temple, first initiate
52. Sita devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
53. Sukananda dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
54. Raja-Laksman dasa, Dallas Temple, first initiate
55. Krishna Priya devi dasi, Dallas Temple, first initiate
56. Hema Gauri devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
57. Hari Kanta devi dasi, Dallas Temple, first initiate
58. Ganapati dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
59. Malati devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
60. Narottamananda dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
61. Kunkumangi devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
62. Prema-bhakti dasa, Dallas Temple, second initiate
63. Kirtida devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
64. Hladini-sakti devi dasi, Dallas Temple, second initiate
65. Gauranga-lila dasi, Dallas Temple, non-initiate
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Letter COM:2497966 (8 lines)
From:      Mahavishnu (das) GKG (photographer) (Vrindavan - IN)
Date:      22-Jul-99 21:42
To:        Internet News [49566]
Subject:   VOTE

   Hare Krishma ! All glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga !

With this letter I would like to conform that I vote  in favor of Iskcon
present  status regarding `` GURU `` issue and that I reject all
presentation by RITVICS as concocted idea and not bonufide as it is not in
line with our Guru parampara !

Maha Vishnu das , serving in Iskcon from 1984 , 2nd initiated .
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Letter COM:2497992 (5 lines)
From:      Ekacakra (das) TKG (Chinese BBT)
Date:      22-Jul-99 22:09
To:        Internet News [49567]
Subject:   vote

Ekacakra dasa, Taipei temple, brahmana initiated, married, reject the
ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Jahnava devi dasi, Taipei temple, harinam initiated, married, reject the
ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2498131 (5 lines)
From:      Govardhan-lila (dd) JPS (Atlanta, GA - USA)
Date:      22-Jul-99 23:33
To:        Internet News [49568]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Govardhan-lila dd.
I leave in the Atlanta, Ga, USA, and serve under the shelter of Jayapataka
Maharaja, and most merciful Sri Sri Gaurnitay at New Panihati Dhama.

I totally reject the ritvik theory.
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Letter COM:2498187 (8 lines)
From:      Syama-vallabha (dd) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      23-Jul-99 00:37
To:        Internet News [49569]
Subject:   VOTE

Dear Ajmila Prabhu,

I Syamavallabha dd, disciple of HH Jayapataka Swami, residing in Sridham
Mayapur, reject the Ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.


Your servant,
Syamaballaba
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Letter COM:2498260 (5 lines)
From:      Krsnendu (das) BCS (New Varsana - NZ)
Date:      23-Jul-99 01:33
To:        Internet News [49570]
Subject:   Vote

Krsnendu das
New Varshan, Auckland, New Zealand
Brahmacari

The posthumous rittvik theory as presented in the cakra debate is bogus.
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Letter COM:2498272 (5 lines)
From:      Balabhadra Bhattacarya (das) ACBSP (Atlanta, GA - USA)
Date:      23-Jul-99 01:37
To:        Internet News [49571]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Balabhadra Bhattacarya dasa and I am an initiated disciple of His
Divince Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada since July 1974. Presently
I am the president of the Atlanta temple.

I strongly reject the Ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2498374 (5 lines)
From:      Radha Prasad (das) JPS (Houston, TX - USA)
Date:      23-Jul-99 03:23
To:        Internet News [49572]
Subject:   Vote

Radha Prasad das, Houston, initiated
Pranarupa dd. Houston, initiated
Niladri dd. Houston, initiated
Nancy Simoes. Houston, bhaktin
We reject ritvikism.
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Letter COM:2498539 (4 lines)
From:      Kurma (das) ACBSP (Melbourne - AU)
Date:      23-Jul-99 05:21
To:        Internet News [49573]
Subject:   vote

My name is Kurma dasa, I am a disciple of His Divine Grace A. C
Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabbhupada, and I serve in Iskcon Melbourne Australia.
I hereby reject Ritvikism in all shapes and forms.
Thank you, Your servant, Kurma dasa
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Letter COM:2498543 (11 lines)
From:      Pandava Sakha (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      23-Jul-99 05:22
To:        Internet News [49574]
Subject:   Letter

Dear Prabhu,
                        Please accept my humble obeisances.All Glories to Srila
Prabhupada.

I want to keep receiving news from Internet is it possible for me to receive
news regularly?


Your servant,

Pandava Sakha Das
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Letter COM:2498644 (15 lines)
From:      Krsnadasa Kaviraja (das) PDA (Portland, OR - USA)
Date:      23-Jul-99 06:24
To:        Internet News [49576]
Subject:   VOTE

The below signing devotees reject ritvikism as presented in the debate on
Chakra. We caste our vote in favor of Ajamila prabhu's position:

Krsnadasa Kaviraja Dasa (Portland - OR, USA), 2nd initiated
(I voted on the internet before though?)
Madana lasa devi dasi (Portland - OR, USA) 2nd initiated
Indriyesa Dasa (Berlin, D) 1st initiated
Nitya Manjari devi dasi (Berlin, D) 1st initiated
Claudia Szrama (Berlin, D) congregational member
Theresa Roese (Berlin, D) congregational member
Wolf Schneider (Berlin, D) congregational member
Dina Dayal Dasa (Weimar, D) 1st initiated
Katharina Rauch (Weimar, D) congregational member
Frank Wohlfarth (Weimar, D) congregational member
Antje Horn (Weimar, D) congregational member
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Letter COM:2498972 (15 lines)
From:      Vaisnava (das) LOK (New Delhi - IN)
Date:      23-Jul-99 08:55
To:        Internet News [49586]
Subject:

                                                            23rd July, 99


NAME                : VAISNAVA DAS

NEAREST TEMPLE             : SANT NAGAR, NEW DELHI.

SPIRITUAL STATUS:  BRAHMIN.

YES, I Reject Ritvikism prsented in the Chakra debate.

( VAISNAVA DAS )
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Letter COM:2499004 (157 lines) [W2]
From:      (Temple) New Vraja-dhama (Hungary)
Date:      23-Jul-99 09:14
To:        Internet News [49588]
Cc:        Yudhisthira (das) SRS (Nat. Secretary of Hungary) [5569]  (received:
           23-Jul-99 10:11)
Subject:   vote

The devotees of New Vraja Dhama vote as a following:

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate and vote for Ajamila
das A

NAME                                       Sp.Staus
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1.)Bhaktipada d                         2nd initiated
2.)Citta Hari d.               2nd
3.)Lilasuka d                              2nd
4.)bhn Timi                                Sri Guru Carana asraya
5.)Taralaksi dd.              2nd
6.)Gömöri Sandor              Srila Prabhupada Asraya
7.)Gaura-Nataraja d                     1st
8.)b. Levente                             Srila Prabhupada asraya
9.)Király Tamás                         SP asraya
10.)Sadhu Sasrta d                        1st
11.)bhn. Edina                           SP asraya
12.)Szabó Gábor                           SP asraya
13.)Sri Govardhana Lal das       1st
14.)bhn. Szilvia              Sri Guru Carana Asraya
15.)Pitavasa d.                          1st
16.)Fehér Attila              SP asraya
17.)Gálik Judit                           SP asraya
18.)Nava Kisora d                      1st
19.)Visvambhara d                    1st
20.)Siddha Muni d                      1st
21.)Nrsimha-prana d.                        1st
22.)Priya-bandhu d                       2nd
23.)bn. Erzsi                              SP asraya
24.)Atula Krsna d                      2nd
25.)Aniyora-vasi d                      2nd
26.)Gandharva das                   1st
27.)b. Gyuri                               SP asraya
28.)Bhakticandrika dd                2nd
29.)Sukumari dd                                    2nd
30.)Haripada d                           2nd
31.)Ternovszky Zita                   SP asrya
32.)Krsnalaya dd                     1st
33.)Kartika dd                            2nd
34.)Kisori dd.                             2nd
35.)Brijbasi dd                           2nd
36.)Atmarama d.                                 2nd
37.)Keli-cancala dd.                    1st
38.)Bhuta dd.                             2nd
39.)Vrajamandala d                    1st
40.)Dhananjaya d                      2nd
41.)Dhiramati dd.                    1st
42.)Larily-lal d.               1st
43.)Krsna-mayi dd                     2nd
44.)Dinesvari dd             1st
45.)Haddad Nóra                             SP asraya
46.)Gokularani dd                     2nd
47.)Mahajana d                          2nd
48.)Manjuwali dd.                    2nd
49.)Gaura-sakti d                      2nd
50.)Nayika dd                            1st
51.)Manorama d                         2nd
52.)Radha kunda dd.                      2nd
53.)Gopal dd                              2nd
54.)Jagannatha d                      2nd
55.)Radhangi dd.                    1st
56.)Syamasundari dd                1st
57.)Indrakarma d                      1st
58.)Radharani dd.                    2nd
59.)bhn. Bea                              SP asraya
60.)Akarsani dd                         1st
61.)Sarat-bihari dd.                    2nd
62.)Subhadra dd                                    2nd
63.)Sraddha dd                          1st
64.)Manjari dd                            2nd
65.)Rukmini Krsna dd.                      2nd
66.)Acyuta-priya dd                     1st
67.)Manasa Ganga dd                      1st
68.)bhn. Enikõ                           SP asraya
69.)Nandarani dd                     1st
70.)b. Jürgen                             SP asraya
71.)b. Gena                               SP asraya
72.)Radha-kanta d.                     2nd
73.)bhn Sveta                            SP asraya
74.)Antardhi d.                           1st
75.)Arcana dd                            1st
76.)Braja-biharini dd.                    1st
77.)b. Robur                              SP asraya
78.)Caitanya Candra d.                      2nd
79.)Gadabrt d.                           1st
80.)Gavendra d.                         2nd
81.)Ghana Syama d                       1st
82.)Nitai-prana d                        2nd
83.)Gayatri dd.                           2nd
84.)Hliva József             SP asraya
85.)b. Szilárd                             SP asraya
86.)Jagatkirti dd             1st
87.)Nikodemus Katalin              SP asraya
88.)b.Kristof                              SP asraya
89.)Lala dd.                               2nd
90.)Jakab Istvan               SP asraya
91.)Laksman d                           2nd
92.)Kadar Gabor                                    SP asraya
93.)Raseswari dd                     2nd
94.)Nemeth Adam                            SP asraya
95.)Anandacandrika dd              1st
96.)Sanatani dd                         2nd
97.)Nikunja-vasini dd                       1st
98.)Karunika dd                         2nd
99.)Sridharananda d.                 1st
100.)Sanatan d                          1st
101.)Keszthelyi Hajna                SP asraya
102.)Sriji dd                               1st
103.)Varga Jozsi                SP asraya
104.)bhn Rita                             SP asraya
105.)Adi-purusa d.                     1st
106.)b. Istvan                            SP asraya
107.)Balassa Sandor              SP asraya
108.)Samanjasa dd.                    2nd
109.)Shmidt Tibor                 SP asraya
110.)bhn. Nikolett             SP asraya
111.)Citra-vasini dd                     2nd
112.)b Sandor                            SP asraya
113.)Õr Janos                            Sri Guru carana asraya
114.)Bakos Peter                SP asraya
115.)Madhukara d.                     1st
116.)Bozoki Istvan               SP asraya
117.)Bozoki Maria                SP asraya
118.)Kaustubha d                      1st
119.)Govinda Mohini dd.                     2nd
120.)Vrajesvari dd                     2nd
121.)Krsna-kanta Siromani dd.        2nd
122.)Radhika dd                         2nd
123.)Balarama d                                    2nd
124.)Abhay Caran                Sri Guru Carana asraya
125.)b. Laci                               Sri Guru Carana asraya
126.)Hemangi dd                                 2nd
127.)Batari Gyula                SP asraya
128.)Kamyavan dd                     1st
129.)Candrakanta dd                  1st
130.)Lalita-mohan d                        2nd
131.)Gaura Gopal d             1st
132.)Sundarupa d                      2nd
133.)Gaura Nitai d                      2nd
134.)Govinda Hari d                2nd
135.)Jayasacinandana d             2nd
136.)Kadamba Kanana d                      1st
137.)Koronczi Erno                 SP asraya
138.)Mahaprabhu d                    2nd
139.)Nityananda d                      1st
140.)Paramesvar d                    2nd
141.)Peller Peter                SP asraya
142.)Puspagopala dd                 2nd
143.)Sevita dd                           2nd
144.)Sitalaksmi dd                     2nd
145.)Sonar Gauranga d                   2nd
146.)Sri Radhe dd                     2nd
147.)Syamasri dd                     1st
148.)Vaikunthesvari dd              2nd
149.)Vaisnava d                         1st
150.)Virag Imre                          Sp asraya
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Letter COM:2499135 (7 lines)
From:      Jagannidhi (das) HKS (Vienna - A)
Date:      23-Jul-99 09:54
Cc:        Internet News [49589]
Reference: Text COM:2489056 by Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB)
Subject:   VOTE

Jagannidhi das
Bhakti Yoga Ashrama Vienna
2nd initiation, grihastha

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate!

ys Jagannidhi das
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Letter COM:2499172 (3 lines)
From:      Veda Priya (dd) PVS (Adelaide - AU)
Date:      23-Jul-99 10:14
To:        Internet News [49590]
Subject:   Vote

I reject the ritvik debate

Veda Priya dasi Adelaide Australia
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Letter COM:2499175 (2 lines)
From:      Keshava (das) TKG (Adelaide - AU)
Date:      23-Jul-99 10:15
To:        Internet News [49591]
Subject:   voting

I receject the ritvik philosophy and debate
Keshava dasa TKG(temple President) Adelaide Australia
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Letter COM:2499187 (3 lines)
From:      Caitanya Hari (das) JPS (Penang - Malaysia)
Date:      23-Jul-99 10:23
To:        Internet News [49592]
Subject:

I am Voting against ritvik.

I am Caitanya Hari das from Penang, Malaysia
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Letter COM:2499204 (12 lines)
From:      Damana Krishna (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      23-Jul-99 10:26
To:        Internet News [49593]
Subject:   VOTE

Dear Prabhus
(pamho)
Since I am not able to vote on the Internet-Cakra address I herewith submit
my vote:
I found the Rtvik arguments completely irrelevant and asastric and so reject
the rtvikism presented in the Cakra debate and vote for ISKCON
against the Ritviks on the CHAKRA website.
My spiritual name: Damana Krishna das Brahmacari (JPS)
Spiritual status: second initiated
Temple: Sri Mayapur Chandrodaya Mandir
YHS
Damana Krsna das Br.
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Letter COM:2499214 (2 lines)
From:      Internet: kirupanithi d/o pooranavelu <kirupa@usm.my>
Date:      23-Jul-99 10:14
To:        Internet News [49594]
Subject:   voting against ritvik


I am kripatita dd from ISKCON Penang Malaysia
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Letter COM:2499217 (2 lines)
From:      Internet: chdas@cs.usm.my
Date:      23-Jul-99 10:24
To:        Internet News [49595]
Subject:   Voting against ritvik


I am Bhaktin Nirmala voting against ritvik.  I am from ISKCON Penang.
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Letter COM:2499308 (5 lines)
From:      Sri Govinda (das) IDS (Moscow - R)
Date:      23-Jul-99 11:04
To:        Internet News [49596]
Subject:   VOTE

My name is Sri Govinda das, I am from Moscow, Russia.

I absolutely reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Thank you.
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Letter COM:2491596 (22 lines) [W2]
From:      (Temple) Debrecen (Hungary)
Date:      20-Jul-99 16:20
To:        Internet News [49372]
Subject:   vote

Dear devotees,

 Please, accept my humble obeisances! All glories to Srila Prabhupada!  We would like to vote against rtvikism from the Debrecen temple, Hungary

 Govardhana dasa (HH Srila Sivarama Swami Maharaja)
Amsu dasa (HH Srila Sivarama Swami Maharaja)
bh Miklós Varga
bh Istvan Szabó
bh László Gyöngyösi (HH Srila Bhaktividya Purna Svami Maharaja)
bh Csaba Schnitzen
bh László Schnitzen
bh Attila Nagy
bh Gábor Halászy
bhn Menta Jónás
bhn Hilda Bányai
bh Ferenc Buglyó
bh  Sándor Halász
 Your servant, bh László Gyöngyösi

(Text COM:2491596) 

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Letter COM:2491718 (4 lines)
From:      Sita (dd) SDHS (Jesenice - SLO)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:06
To:        Internet News [49377]
Subject:   vote

My name is Sita devi dasi, disciple of HH Sridhar Swami.
Nearest temple is in Ljubljana, Slovenia.
I have first initiation.
I reject ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2491759 (6 lines)
From:      Bhakti-rasa (das) SDG (Newcastle - UK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:15
To:        Internet News [49378]
Subject:   vote

We reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate

Bhakti rasa das, Iskcon Newcastle, brahmana.
Kirtida dd, Iskcon Newcastle, brahmana.
Aditi dd, Isckon Newcastle, first initiated.
Bhn Clara Clay, Isckon Newcastle, bhaktin.
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Letter COM:2491779 (4 lines)
From:      Vipramukhya Swami
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:17
To:        Internet News [49379]
Subject:   VOTE

> PS. I have spoken to Ajamila and he says that if I want to vote against
> the Ritviks that I can do so through you. Please take this as my vote.

-Michael Howsen
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Letter COM:2491818 (10 lines)
From:      Janaka (das) HKS (Osijek - HR)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:26
To:        Internet News [49380]
Subject:   VOTE

Dear Ajamila Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Thank you for your letter, and all the effort that you have put in this
fight for Srila Prabhupdas, and our ISKCON.

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Y.s. Janaka das
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Letter COM:2491821 (11 lines)
From:      Krsna-surya (das) HKS (Vienna - A)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:28
To:        Internet News [49381]
Subject:   VOTE

Hare Krsna

Please take my Vote aigainst the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Serving for a better ISKCON

Krsna surya das (HKS) Varnaprasha
Vienna Tempel
Koppstr.93/3/2
1160 Vienna
Austria
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Letter COM:2491827 (3 lines)
From:      Pancadhara (das) (Buenos Aires - ARG)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:29
To:        Internet News [49382]
Subject:   VOTE

Pancadhara das
Buenos aires mandir
I reject the ritvikism
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Letter COM:2491872 (7 lines)
From:      Kakudmi (das) HKS (Jagannatha Harinam Party)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:43
To:        Internet News [49383]
Subject:   vote

Hare Krsna !

My name is Kakudmi das, initiated in 1996. by HKS, I'm situated in temple
Portland, Oregon.
I reject rtvik philosophy.

ys kakudmi das
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Letter COM:2491895 (9 lines)
From:      Radha Raman (das) TKG (Radhadesh - B)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:49
To:        Internet News [49384]
Subject:   vote

Radha Raman das
Radhadesh, Chateau de Petite Somme, Belgium
devotte

I completely reject poisonous ritvik theory.


Your servant
Radha Raman Das
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Letter COM:2491943 (10 lines)
From:      Dayalu (das) HKS (Opatija - HR)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:02
To:        Internet News [49385]
Subject:   vote

Please accept my humble obeisances
All glories to Srila Prabhupada

My name is Dayalu das, Croatia, Europe.
Nearest temple " ISKCON Bhaktivedanta Cultural Center Rijeka".
14 years in movement, second initiated. Member of BKC Rijeka board.

I am defenetely rejecting ritvic theory for it is apsolutely false.

Ys Dayalu das
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Letter COM:2491955 (11 lines)
From:      (Bhaktin) Sacha Gingras-fox (Vancouver - CAN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:06
To:        Internet News [49386]
Subject:   vote

Dear Prabhus,

PAMHO AGTSP!!

My name is bhaktin Sacha and my nearest temple is Vancouver, B.C.-"New
Gokula".  I am aspiring for Vipramukya Swami and very much want to be
initiated by him.  I completely reject ritvikism as presented in the CHAKRA
debate.

Your ever aspiring servant(hopefully one day able to be initiated!!),
Bhaktin Sacha
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Letter COM:2491958 (7 lines)
From:      Kamsahanta (das) HKS (Hilleroed - DK)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:08
To:        Internet News [49387]
Subject:   VOTE

I Kamsahanta das, living in the Nava Srivas Angam temple
at Hilleroed i Denmark as a grhasta and an initiated member
of ISKCON since 85, vote against the ritvik doctrine as
presented on the CHAKRA web page.

Your servant
Kamsahanta das
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Letter COM:2491965 (16 lines)
From:      (Bhakta) Rathi Sewsunker (Durban - SA)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:12
To:        Internet News [49388]
Subject:   Ritvik debate votes

The following devotees hereby vote against the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA
debate:

1). Name: Bhaktin Ashika Sewsunker
    Nearest Temple: Seattle, WA, USA.
    (also connected to: Temple of Understanding, Durban, S. Africa)
    Spiritual status: Aspiring for initiation from H.H. Bhakti Caru Swami.

2). Name: Bhakta Rathi Sewsunker
    Nearest Temple: Seattle, WA, USA.
    (also connected to: Temple of Understanding, Durban, S. Africa)
    Spiritual status: Aspiring for initiation from H.H. Bhakti Caru Swami.

Your servant
Bhakta Rathi
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Letter COM:2491994 (10 lines)
From:      Nayana Manjari (dd) BCS (Zurich - CH)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:27
To:        Internet News [49389]
Subject:   Votes

Hare krsna ,PAMHO AGTSP
Here our votes for Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON against the ritviks:
-PRTHU dasa (from Spain)
nearest temple :Zurich
second initiation,grhastha
-Nayana Manjari d.dasi
nearest temple:Zurich
second initiation,grhastha
Hare Krsna ,All glories to your service.
your servants    Prthu dasa & Nayana Manjari d.dasi
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Letter COM:2491998 (4 lines)
From:      Govinda Madhava (das) HKS (NE-BBT)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:27
To:        Internet News [49390]
Subject:   VOTE

Govinda Madhava das - NE BBT Sweden.
ISKCON member since 1978; first and second initiation by HKS.

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2492011 (26 lines)
From:      Jaya Sacinandana (das) PDA (Seattle SKT Center - USA)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:30
To:        Internet News [49391]
Subject:   vote

Following devotees from ISKCON Portland temple are absolutely rejecting the
ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate:

Jaya Sacinandana das (TP Portland)
Devaprastha das
Giridhari das
Vrindavan Candra das
Jayananda das
Jaya Ram das
Devananda das
Acyuta das
Janardana das
Jaya Hari das
Dvarakadish das
Visnujana das
Bh. Bryce
Bh. Luc
Bh. Scott
Bh. Lynx
Bh. Jaycee
Bh. Steve
Bh. Brian
Bn. Rachel
Bn. Monica

Altogether 21 votes against ritviks.
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Letter COM:2492509 (31 lines)
From:      Sridam (das) GDS (Manila - PHI)
Date:      20-Jul-99 22:08
To:        Internet News [49413]
Subject:   VOTE

ISKCON Manila
21 July,1999

Dear Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All
glories to Sri Sri Guru and Gauranga.

I understand we can cast our votes here from the recently concluded debate
on Chakra. And that multiple votes are accepted provided we supply each
devotees info. So please find below a list of devotees from our temple
(Manila temple) who are totally against the rtvik philosophy. We are all in
favor of Ajamila dasa prabhu and for the GBC.

Sridama dasa-Manila templeTemple president
Pundarik dasaManila temple-pujari
Gokula Candra dasaManila temple-treasurer
Raghunath dasa-Manila temple FFL manager
Govinda dasa-Manila temple- sankirtan devotee
Baladeva dasa-Manila temple-sankirtan devotee
Brngara dasaManila templesankirtan devotee
Madhumati devi dasiManila temple-cook
Isani devi dasiManila temple-pujari
Kandarpa Sundari devi dasi- secretary

All the devotees above listed has the spiritual status in good standing.

Hope this meets you well.

Your servant,
Sridama dasa
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Letter COM:2492558 (59 lines)
From:      Hari Sankirtan (das) JPS (Bolivia)
Date:      20-Jul-99 22:49
To:        Internet News [49414]
Subject:   VOTE

I, Maujjvala Prema dd., secretary of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism
presented in the CHAKRA debate.

I, Maharsi das, member of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in
the CHAKRA debate.

I, Mathuresh das, vice-president of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism
presented in the CHAKRA debate.

I, Om Kesavaya das, of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in
the CHAKRA debate.

I, Anadi Adi Govinda dd., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented
in the CHAKRA debate.

I, Minesi Priya., administrator of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism
presented in the CHAKRA debate.

I, Hari Rasa., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.

I, Vilasisni dd., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.

I, Upendra Misra das., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in
the CHAKRA debate.

I, Sraddha Bhakti dd., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in
the CHAKRA debate.

I, Ekanistha das, of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.

I, Jaganath Krishna das., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented
in the CHAKRA debate.

I, Rama Prasada das, of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in
the CHAKRA debate.

I, Roudra Simha, of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.

I, Yudisthira das, of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.

I, Puspanjali dd., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.

I, Mata Prisnna dd., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in
the CHAKRA debate.

I, Ekendra Krishna das, of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented
in the CHAKRA debate.

I, Krishna Puja dd., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in
the CHAKRA debate.

I, Eka Sakti dd., of ISKCON Bolivia, reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2492565 (72 lines)
From:      Jaya Tirtha Charan (das) JPS
Date:      20-Jul-99 22:56
To:        Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB) [9572]  (received: 21-Jul-99
           06:10)
Cc:        Internet News [49415]
Reference: Text COM:2492315 by Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB)
Subject:   Re: Votes

All the below devotees are active Iskcon supporters and reject rtvikism, we
are in the Bay of Plenty region of New Zealand. Iskcon Tauranga at Katikati
as listed in the BTG is our community.

Atmananda dasa ACBSP
Bhakti Marga dd (Bhagavan, Jagdish prabhus)
Rama Priya dd (aged 19)

Krishna Prema Vati dd ACBSP
Parvata Muni (Bhavananda)

Girirupadhari dasa ACBSP
Shilavasini dd ACBSP

Narayan dasa ACBSP
Bhadra dd ACBSP

Devadharma dasa ACBSP
Aneshri (Mukunda Gos)

Jaya Tirtha Charan dasa (Jayatirtha, Bhavananda, JPS)
Vedavati dd (Jayatirtha, Bhavananda, Indradyumna Swami)
Gaura Gopal (aged 15)

Gaura Nataraj dasa (Jayatirtha, Bhagavan, Harikesh)
Sita Seva dd (Jayatirtha, Bhagavan)

Madhumangala dasa (TKG)
Tulsi Krishna dd (Jagdish, TKG)

Tamal Krishna dasa (Bhavananda)
Cintamani (Bhavananda)

Trivikram dasa (Prabhavishnu Swami)
Sumukhi dd (Prabhavishnu Swami)

Ramachandra dasa (Prabhavishnu Swami)
Sita dd (Prabhavishnu Swami)

Balabhadra dasa (Bhavananda, Jagdish)
Laxmi Nrsimha dd (Bhavananda, Indradtumna Swami)
Ruchi (aged 17)
Padmavati (aged 16)

Aswini and Jyoti Kumar
Salapathy Rao

Bhakta Mike
Bhakta Ian Harris
Bhakta Shahin and Bhaktine Gabriela Maghsoudhi
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Letter COM:2492588 (5 lines)
From:      Subuddhi Raya (das) PVS (Moscow - R)
Date:      20-Jul-99 23:17
To:        Internet News [49416]
Subject:   vote

PAMHO. AGTSP.
My name is Subuddhi Raya das, my spiritual master is Prabhavisnu Swami
maharaja. I am from Moscow. I am second initiated and grihasthi. My guru
maharaja as I heard not recomended to accept or follow ritviks way. And I
just try to accept and follow His instructions. Your servant srd
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Letter COM:2492595 (16 lines)
From:      Rasa Rasika (das) PVS (New Govardhan - AU)
Date:      20-Jul-99 23:22
To:        Internet News [49417]
Subject:   VOTE

Rasa Rasika dasa
New Govardhana, NSW, Australia
Grhasta

I outright reject the deviant speculative philosophy presented by
unscrupulous persons that Srila Prabhupada is the only initiating spiritual
master and that his disciples are initiating on his behalf-otherwise known
as the THE POST-SAMADHI RITVIK THEORY.

I see no need to carry on discussions as this seems to fuel the Ritvik's
fire. Like a naughty child - the more you tell him not to do something, the
more he does it.
They are never going to accept the truth because it's their whole
justification for undermining the GBC and other authorities in ISKCON.
Without this theory they HAVE to be subordinate to an authority and that's
what this is all about. Ahankara is a very powerful force.
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Letter COM:2492645 (7 lines)
From:      Yadu-srestha (das) PVS (Melbourne - AU)
Date:      20-Jul-99 23:42
To:        Internet News [49418]
Subject:   VOTE

To Whom It May Concern
My name is Yadu Srestha I am a brahman initiated disciple of HH PrabhaVisnu
Swami and have been a member of Iskcon for 14 years and Temple Commander and
member of Melbourne Temple Management Committee for last 11 years.
I am in favor of regular initiations and against ritvik.
Your Servant
Yadu Srestha
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Letter COM:2492677 (6 lines)
From:      (Temple) Melbourne (AU)
Date:      20-Jul-99 23:56
To:        Internet News [49419]
Subject:   VOTE

Dear vote collector
My name is Ananga Manjari devi dasi an 9 year disciple of HH Tamal Krisha
Goswami and a 12 year member of Iskcon Melbourne Temple .
I am opposed to the ritvik doctrine .
Your Servant
Ananga Manjari
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Letter COM:2492678 (23 lines) [W1]
From:      Sridhari (dd) JPS (Mendoza - ARG)
Date:      20-Jul-99 17:03
To:        Internet News [49420]
Cc:        Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB) [9577]  (received: 21-Jul-99
           06:10)
Subject:   VOTING AGAINST RITVIKS FROM MENDOZA - ARGENTINA

WE VOTE AGAINST RITVIK PHILOSOPHY FROM MENDOZA ARGENTINA:

DHANAÑJAYA PANDIT DAS ADHIKARI (JPS)  (2° INITIATION)
SRIDHARI DEVI DASI (JPS)                              (2° INITIATION)
SURYA RAM DAS  ADHIKARI (JPS)                   (2° INITIATION)
LALITA SAKI DEVI DASI (JPS)                          (2° INITIATION)
AMRTA DEVI DASI (BBS)                                        (1° INITIATION)
ANADHI RADHA DEVI DASI (JPS)                               (1° INITIATION)
OMKARA DAS (BBS)                                                   (1° INITIATION)
MUKUNDA CARAN DAS (VBd)                                        (1° INITIATION)
MUKUNDA HARI DAS (VBd)                                        (1° INITIATION)

I hope this have been done properly, any inconvenience don't hesitate to
contact me.

your servant, Sridhari devi dasi

PS. Thank  you for giving us this oportunity.

Sridhari@lanet.com.ar
Sridhari.jps@bbt.se
phone: +54 - 261 - 4221806
Mendoza - Argentina
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Letter COM:2492698 (3 lines)
From:      Maitreya Muni (das) BBS (BBT - Argentina)
Date:      21-Jul-99 00:15
To:        Internet News [49421]
Subject:   Vote.

I agre with. Ajamila P.I reject the ritviks.
Ys Maitreya Muni das.
BBT- Argentina manager.
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Letter COM:2492748 (1 line)
From:      Bhakti Vikasa Swami
Date:      21-Jul-99 01:07
To:        Internet News [49422]
Subject:   vote

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2492760 (10 lines)
From:      Internet: Bhaktisiddhanta Swami <bhaktisid.swami@ibm.net>
Date:      21-Jul-99 00:53
To:        Internet News [49423]
Subject:   VOTE

To whom this may concern,

  Pamho AgtSP,

      My name is Bhaktisiddhanta Swami, presently we are at Iskcon Adelaide. I
place my vote in favor of Ajamila prabhu's presentation in the debate againgst
the ritvik conclusions. Hare Krsna

        your servant,
          Bhaktisiddhanta Swami
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Letter COM:2493669 (16 lines) [W1]
From:      Bhagavata-purana das (Villaggio Hare Krsna, Italy)
Date:      21-Jul-99 10:00
To:        Internet News [49451]
Subject:   VOTE

Bhagavata-Purana Dasa
Villaggio Hare Krsna (Medolago, ITALY)
BBT translator
I don´t accept the conclusions of ritvikism as presented in the CHAKRA
debate nor in other apasiddhantic forms.

YS
BHAGAVATA-PURANA DASa
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Letter COM:2493738 (8 lines)
From:      Gaura-raya (das) KKD (Torun - PL)
Date:      21-Jul-99 10:38
To:        Internet News [49453]
Subject:   vote

PAMHO!AGTSP!

My name is Gaura-raya dasa. I live near New Ramana Reti temple Warsaw
Poland. I am second initiated by Srila Krsna-ksetra Prabhu.
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

ys
Gaura-raya dasa
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Letter COM:2493764 (14 lines)
From:      Mahavishnu Swami (ACBSP) (Bangladesh / Nepal)
Date:      21-Jul-99 10:50
To:        Internet News [49454]
Subject:   Vote

Camp: Soho St ,London,
All glories to Sri Guru and Gouranga!

Dear Prabhus,

Hare Krishna! All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!

I totally reject Ritvikism as explained in the Cakra debate recently.

Hoping that this finds you well in Krishna's devotional service,

Trying to convey the message of Srila Prabhupada,

 Mahavishnu Swami
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Letter COM:2493775 (4 lines)
From:      Dhira Krsna (das) BCS (Radhadesh - B)
Date:      21-Jul-99 10:51
To:        Internet News [49455]
Subject:   VOTE

Dhira Krsna dasa
RADHADESH, Septon, Belgium
Brahmacari, pujari
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2493783 (6 lines)
From:      Haraprita (dd) HKS (F)
Date:      21-Jul-99 10:59
To:        Internet News [49456]
Subject:   VOTE

PAMMHO!
All glories to srila Prabhupada!

I vote against the ritviks and I vote for ISCKON .
My name is Haraprita d.d.I live in Paris Radha Krsna Temple.I am a pujari ,
sankirtan devotee and I study at Sorbone.I am initiated Brahmana.
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Letter COM:2493799 (2 lines)
From:      Tattvavit (das) ACBSP (NE-BBT)
Date:      21-Jul-99 11:05
To:        Internet News [49457]
Subject:   vote

Tattvavit dasa (ACBSP), Zurich, rejects the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2493826 (8 lines)
From:      Amrta Gaurangi (dd) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      21-Jul-99 11:15
To:        Internet News [49458]
Subject:   anti-ritvik vote

Hare Krishna,


pamho. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Well this is my vote against this ritvik madness.

Ys Amrita Gaurangi dd
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Letter COM:2493885 (10 lines)
From:      Parvati (dd) LOK (Den Haag - NL)
Date:      21-Jul-99 11:44
To:        Internet News [49459]
Subject:   Vote

PAMHO AGTSP

Hari bol,

My name is Parvati d.d and I come to the Center "SRI SRI RADHA KRSNA DHAM"
in Den Haag. I don't have any status and I reject against the ritvikism in
the Chakra debate.
I hope I can help ISKCON with this vote.

Ys Parvati d.d
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Letter COM:2493901 (3 lines)
From:      Prema Manjari (dd) BCS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      21-Jul-99 11:49
To:        Internet News [49460]
Subject:   vote

I vote absolutely and completely against Ritvikism.

ys Prema Manjari dasi
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Letter COM:2493915 (8 lines)
From:      Krsna Ksetra (das) ACBSP (USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 11:52
To:        Internet News [49461]
Subject:   vote

Krsna Ksetra Das.ACBSP
Nrsimha Kshetra Farm, Germany / Oxford, UK
'fulltime devotee', ...

I hereby submit my "vote" rejecting the 'ritvikvada' idea proposed on
CHAKRA.

YS KKD
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Letter COM:2494038 (12 lines)
From:      Ramananda Raya (das) BCS (Radhadesh - B)
Date:      21-Jul-99 11:53
To:        Internet News [49462]
Subject:   VOTE

To whom it concerns :

Following Iskcon devotees :

Lalassamayi devi dasi
Ramananda Raya dasa
Kamala Manjari devi dasi
Vishvesvara dasa

All brahmin initiated Iskcon by Sri Srimad Bhakti Caru Swami and all serving
in the Iskcon Radhadesh, Belgium community, fully reject the riktivitism as
it has been presented in the Cakra Debate recently.
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Letter COM:2494047 (19 lines)
From:      Internet: Kay Sharma <KSharma@multichoice.co.za>
Date:      21-Jul-99 09:53
To:        Internet News [49463]
Subject:   Vote Against Ritviks

Hari Bol

PAMHO
AGTSP


Spiritual Names:                        Nearest Temple:
Spiritual Status:

Naamacarya das                   Lenasia, Gauteng, South Africa
Brahmin Initiated
Kaisori devi dasi                                    Lenasia, gauteng, South Africa
Brahmin Initiated

We both strongly reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Hare Krishna
ys
Kaisori devi dasi
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Letter COM:2494056 (3 lines)
From:      Laksmi-rupa (dd) JPS (Bauneholm - DK)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:03
To:        Internet News [49464]
Subject:   vote

My name is laksmi rupa dd, I'm serving as vice-president in the New Srivas
Angam temple, Copenhagen, Denmark, and I reject the ritvikism as presented
in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2494110 (5 lines)
From:      Rohininandana (das) HKS (S)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:26
To:        Internet News [49465]
Subject:   Vote

Rohininandana das, Almviks Gard, second initiated.

I'm clearly against the ritvik philosphy.

ys
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Letter COM:2494130 (5 lines)
From:      Mangala (dd) HKS (Almvik - S)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:35
To:        Internet News [49466]
Subject:   Vote

Mangala dd, Almviks Gard, second initiated.

I clearly reject the ritvik philosophy.

ys
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Letter COM:2494138 (4 lines)
From:      Yasomatinandana (das) GKG (Moscow Gurukula - R)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:36
To:        Internet News [49467]
Subject:   vote

Yasomatinandana das
Moscow
2nd initiation
reject
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Letter COM:2494143 (2 lines)
From:      Kisora Kisori (das) HKS (NJNK - D)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:38
To:        Internet News [49468]
Subject:   VOTE

Kisora Kisori dasa, Wroclaw Temple-Poland,
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate
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Letter COM:2494165 (16 lines)
From:      Gaura Sakti (das) SRS (TP, New Vraja-dhama - H)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:44
To:        Internet News [49469]
Subject:   "VOTE"

Dear prabhu,
please accept my respectful obeisances,
all glories to Srila Prabhupada.

My name is Gaura Sakti das, i am a second initiated  desciple of Srila
Sivarama Swami Maharaja.

I am living in Hungary in New Vraja Dhama farm community where my service is
temlpom president.

I completly reject this nonsense ritvik thing.

Please count my vote regarding.


Your servant, gsd.
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Letter COM:2494203 (10 lines)
From:      (Bhakta) Michael Nielsen (New Srivas Angam - DK)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:51
To:        Internet News [49470]
Subject:   Vote

Please accept my obeisances
All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

My name is Bh. Michael, I'm living as a brahmacary in New Srivas Angam,
Denmark, and have been doing service here for a year and a half.

I vote against the Ritviks.

Your servant
bh. Michael
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Letter COM:2494233 <CIS:187911> (2 lines)
From:      Acarya Candra (das) PVS (TP, Kiev - UKR)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:51
To:        Internet News [49471]
Subject:   VOTE

Acarya Candra (PVS) TP Kishinew Moldova
I reject the ritvic sistem.
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Letter COM:2494627 (5 lines)
From:      Murti Mati (dd) JPS (New Talavan, MS - USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 16:05
To:        Internet News [49486]
Subject:   VOTE

I reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate.
your servant
Murti Mati dd
New Talavana Mississippi USA
Status:Initiated HHJPS
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Letter COM:2494642 (21 lines)
From:      Radha Vinode (das) TKG (Dallas, TX - USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 16:15
To:        Internet News [49487]
Subject:   (no subject)

Radha Vinod das and Indra Nila Mani d.d.
We live next to the Dallas temple. I am the V.P. She is a samkirtan devotee.
We are both 2nd initiated. We both reject the ritvikism presented in the
Cakra debate.


My name is Caitania Candra das. I live next to the Dallas temple. I am a
disiple of Srila Prabhupada. I reject the ritvekism presented in the Cakra
debate.

My name is Nila Madhava d.d. I live next to the Dallas temple. I am second
initiated by a ISKON spiritual master. I reject the ritvikism presented in
the Cakra debate.


I am Guru Daksina dasa And My wife is Tusti devi dasi ,we live in Sri Dham
Mayapura ISKCON and we reject the ritvik arguement.


My name is Gaura Jagannatha my wife is Mula Prakriti dd, and we reject the
ritvik deal as put by Cakra. We live in Sydney temple.
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Letter COM:2494666 (6 lines)
From:      Hari Sauri (das) ACBSP
Date:      21-Jul-99 16:25
To:        Internet News [49488]
Subject:   VOTE

this is from Hari-sauri dasa, Co-Director, Mayapur India.

            I vote for Ajamila prabhu and against the ritviks in the debate.

                Your humble servant,
                Hari-sauri dasa
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Letter COM:2494687 (26 lines)
From:      Atmabhu (das) HKS (Belgrade - YU)
Date:      21-Jul-99 16:31
To:        Internet News [49489]
Subject:   VOTES

PAMHO,AGTSP
PLS NOTE THAT ALL OF US DEVOTEES FROM BELGRADE TEMPLE AND YUGOSLAVIA
REJECT THE RTVICS PHILOSOPHY AND CLAIMS.THEY ARE AGAINST THE CLEAR
INSTRUCTION GIVEN BY SPOG SRI KRSNA IN BG4.34.
KRSNA CLEARY SAID SURENDER TO THE LIVING GURU,SEARVE HIM ,ASK QUESTIONS ETC.

1.MADHVA MUNI DAS,SANK.LEADER,YU NAC.SANK.PARTY
2.MAHAPAURUSIKA DAS ,YU NAC,SAN.PARTY
3.BAHULASVA DAS, YU NAC,SAN.PARTY.
4.ATMABHU DAS YNTSKP,BBT LEAD. GBC.DEPP.
5.NANDASUTA DAS ,YDTSKP
6.NIMAY PANDIT DAS ,YU BBT
7.BHAKTIGRANTHA DAS,BGD TP
8.MADAN GOPAL DAS,BECEJ NHC LEADER.
9.PANDU DAS,PRAS.DISTR.BGD
10.SUDEVI DD,CONG.PREAC.BGD
11.KISHORI DD YU NAC,TSKP
12.BHAKTI DD, PUJARI BGD
13.VINDYAVALI DD,BECEJ,CON.PREACH.
14.DEVARATA DD,PRAS.DISTR.BGD
15.BHN.LJILJA.PUJARI DEP. BGD
16.BH.BANE YU NAC TSKP
17.BH.SALE YU NAC TSKP
18.BALI SADHACARI DAS ,CONG.PREACH.BGD
19.BHN.MILA ,PRAS.DISTR.BGD
20.BH.SLAVKO,PRAS.DISTR.TEAM,BGD.
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Letter COM:2494736 (3 lines)
From:      Internet: dmitry@vkptus.oilnet.ru
Date:      21-Jul-99 06:49
To:        Internet News [49490]
Subject:   vote

A.G.S.P.
Name: Dmitry.Cerepennikov. H.D.G. Bhacti Caitanya Swami
place: r.Tatarstan,Almetyevsk
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Letter COM:2494748 (22 lines)
From:      Internet: Lynda van Nus <lvannus@SowellCo.com>
Date:      21-Jul-99 17:04
To:        Internet News [49491]
Subject:   Re: Ritvik Issue/Cakra Debate

 

Dear Prabhu(s),

Please accept my humble obeisances. My name is Kunti dasi. I am a
disciple of Tamal Krishna Goswami Gurudeva. He is my representative of
Srila Prabhupada and he is my "Srila Prabhupada" at the same time. He is
personally guiding me as Srila Prabhupada guided/guides my spiritual
uncles and aunts in the beginning of ISKCON in the U.S.
To accept that Gurudeva is my "ritvik" guru is an improper description.
He is my diksa guru as Prabhupada is the diksa guru for my spiritual
aunts and uncles. Prabhupada is my siksa guru and the siksa guru for the
whole generations to come as well.
I oppose the ritvik debate on Chakra in this way. My spiritual father
Srila Gurudeva and my spiritual grandfather Srila Prabhupada will remain
for me eternally in this way. This manifestation of impersonalism, in
the form of relegating all ISKCON gurus to "ritvik" status is much like
"throwing the baby out with the bath water."

I beg to remain your servant,

Kunti devi dasi
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Letter COM:2494820 (5 lines)
From:      Tungavidya Priya (dd) JPS (Radhadesh - B)
Date:      21-Jul-99 17:32
To:        Internet News [49492]
Subject:   Vote.

 I reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate.

Tungavidya Priya devi dasi,
Temple: Radhadesh, Septon Belgium.
status: First initiation, JPS.
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Letter COM:2494823 (2 lines)
From:      Divya Priya (dd) JPS (Florianopolis - BR)
Date:      21-Jul-99 17:35
To:        Internet News [49493]
Subject:   VOTE

haribol,I reject the ritvikism presented in the chakra debate.
ys,divya priya dd.
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Letter COM:2494824 (2 lines)
From:      Syama Sakhi (dd) JPS (Florianopolis - BR)
Date:      21-Jul-99 17:36
To:        Internet News [49494]
Subject:   VOTE

I REJECT THE RITVIKISM PRESENTED IN THE CHAKRA DEBATE.
HARE KRISHNA,YS SYAMA SAKHI DD.
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Letter COM:2494901 (7 lines)
From:      Sridhar Swami
Date:      21-Jul-99 18:03
To:        Internet News [49495]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Sridhar Swami . I am right now in Ljubljana temple but I
constantly travel . I am a humble sannyasi and I have a few disciples .

I most definitely reject Adridharan's presentation on Ritvik philosophy .

Your servant
Sridhar Swami
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Letter COM:2494907 (101 lines)
From:      Saktyahladini (dd) RSD (Subotica - YU)
Date:      21-Jul-99 18:08
To:        Internet News [49496]
Subject:   VOTE

Dear Ajamila Prabhu!

Please accept our humble obeisances.

All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

Here is our votes to reject ritvikism preseted in the CHAKRA debate:

1.VOTE come from:

Bhuta devi dasi, Hungary,New-vraja Dham farm ,second initiated
devotee,pujari on the oltar of Sri Sri Radha -Syamasundara

2.VOTE come from:

Jasomati devi dasi,Yugoslavia,Belgrade temple,first initiated
devotee,ISKCON congregation member

3.VOTE come from:

Saktyahladini devi dasi,Yugoslavia,Bhakti-vrksa Subotica,Belgrade
temple,first initiated devotee,ISKCON congregation member

Your servant
Saktyahladini devi dasi


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Dear Mother Saktyahladini,

Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

For one reason or another many devotees are having difficulty voting for ISKCON
against the Ritviks on the CHAKRA website. Many complain they can't access the
internet, and others say they can't find a separate computer. Those
experiencing such difficulties can now vote by e-mail on COM.

1. If you are using WINCOM or MACCOM, address a letter with the subject "VOTE"
and send it to "Internet News."

2. Type in your spiritual name, nearest temple, spiritual status, and that you
reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate

3. Click on 'send' and you've done it.

If you are not using WINCOM or MACCOM send you message to:

internet.news@bbt.se

Multiple votes in one letter from various devotees in a temple are acceptable
provided CHAKRA receives each individual voter's above-mentioned details.
Voting will continue for around ten days and is open to only those who take an
interest in ISKCON.

We make no claims whatsoever that a philosophical issue can be decided by
voting. The issue of post-samadhi initiations in ISKCON can only be concluded
by guru, sadhu, and sastra as was clearly demonstrated in the CHAKRA Internet
debate. By this criterion it was irrefutably proved that the Ritviks' invented
posthumous diksa idea is a wild and dangerous concoction. It was also clearly
verified that guru, sadhu, and sastra approve the ISKCON traditional regular
guru system. The purpose of this voting exercise is to understand the extent to
which the poisonous ritvik idea has infiltrated ISKCON and subsequently make
plans to better educate our devotees. So please register your vote now.

If you would like to receive by e-mail the official GBC paper on post-samadhi
initiations entitled "Prabhupada's Order", based entirely on guru, sadhu, and
sastra, you can either download it from CHAKRA or contact me and I'll send you
a copy.

Serving you for a better ISKCON

Ajamila Das Adhikari

N.B. If this letter has inconvenienced you please forgive me. Hare Krishna!!
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Letter COM:2494915 (8 lines)
From:      Gauranga priya (dd) RSD (Zagreb - HR)
Date:      21-Jul-99 18:15
To:        Internet News [49497]
Subject:   vote

Hare Krsna, pamho.

My name is Gauranga priya DD. I belong to the Zagreb Temple (Croatia). I am
initiated disciple of Rohini Suta Prabhu.

I support ISKCON and reject rtviks.

y.s. Gaurangapriya DD
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Letter COM:2496317 (6 lines)
From:      Vainateya (das) KKD (NJNK - D)
Date:      22-Jul-99 09:39
To:        Internet News [49537]
Subject:   VOTE

Vainateya dasa, Nrsimha-ksetra (Germany), second initiated by Krsna-ksetra
Prabhu
Avantika dasi, Nrsimha-ksetra (Germany), second initiated by Krsna-ksetra
Prabhu

We both vote against the "ritviks"
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Letter COM:2496366 (5 lines)
From:      Ananta Rupa (das) BCS (Johannesburg - SA)
Date:      22-Jul-99 10:02
To:        Internet News [49538]
Subject:   VOTE

ANANTARUPA DASA
ISCKON LENASIA
BRAMACHARI

I FIRMLY REJECT THE POST SAMADHI RITVIK PROXY INITITION THEORY
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Letter COM:2496402 (4 lines)
From:      Bhadra Balaram (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      22-Jul-99 10:12
To:        Internet News [49539]
Subject:   VOTE

I reject the rtvik-nonsense. In my opinion HG Ajamila pr clearly wins the
debate with Adridharan das.

ys, bb
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Letter COM:2496453 (2 lines)
From:      Kanakabja (das) (Abentheuer - D)
Date:      22-Jul-99 10:33
To:        Internet News [49540]
Subject:   VOTE

I, Kanakabja das brahmacary, SKT leader at ISKCON Abentheuer, Germany, am
giving my vote in favor of ISKCON, against nonsence Rtvik demons
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Letter COM:2496525 (21 lines)
From:      Malini-Nitai (dd) JPS (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK)
Date:      22-Jul-99 11:05
To:        Internet News [49541]
Subject:   VOTE

I am voting,together with my husband,against ritvik teory,as presented in
"Cakra".

My husband's name:
Nila Madhava dasa,
Initiated brahmana by H.H.Mukunda Maharaja


My name:
Malini Nitai dasi,
first initiated by H.H. Jayapataka Maharaja

We are both living at the Bhaktivedanta manor,UK


One more devotee is voting against ritviks:
Rohini devi dasi
Brahmana initiated by H.H.Sivarama Maharaja
At the moment she is in the same temple as we are.

Thank you very much.
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Letter COM:2496536 (8 lines)
From:      Internet: Stuart van Nus <svannus@airmail.net>
Date:      22-Jul-99 11:11
To:        Internet News [49542]
Subject:   Reject Ritvikism

My name is Sri Rupa dasa. Please accept my obeisances!
Myself and my brother Virabhadra dasa hope to accept a spiritual master
someday without the contaminations of politics and envy in the form of
"ritvikism". We reject any and all forms of "ritvikism" presented on the
Chakra debate. So does our father, Shalagram dasa who is a loyal
disciple of TKG.
Your servants at Dallas ISKCON,
Sri Rupa dasa, Virabhadra dasa & Shalagram dasa
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Letter COM:2496584 (11 lines)
From:      Pradip das (Adelaide - AU)
Date:      22-Jul-99 11:32
To:        Internet News [49543]
Subject:   I reject RITVIKISM

My Name is Pradip Das

I am a Gurukula Gratuate from Mayapur Gurukula. I am currently in Adelaide,
Australia.
Doing my year 11 and 12 for future purposes. I attend the temple a few times a
week and I have a spiritual program every morning (Meaning Chanting my Round).
I completely REJECT THE RITVIKISM PRESENTED IN THE CHAKRA DEBATE. I REJECT
RITVIC PHYLOSIPHY. NO RITVICS.

Your servant
Pradip Das
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Letter COM:2496675 (162 lines)
From:      Padma (dd) TKG (Vrindavan - IN)
Date:      22-Jul-99 12:12
To:        Internet News [49544]
Subject:   VOTE

Dear Maharajas and Prabhus,

Please accept our humble obeisances.  All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

We are the initiated and congregational members of ISKCON Khasa Mission.
We would like to inform you that we all reject the ritvikism presented in
the CHAKRAA debate.  As the members of ISKCON, we whole-heartedly support
the teachings of Srila Prabhupada and the Guru-parampara.  In no way we can
accept this ritvikism which is completely against the scriptures!!

Hoping this meets you well.

Your servants in the
service of Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON,

Khasa - New Hastinapur:

Initiated members:

Ramachandra das

Padma devi dasi
Narayana das

Bhagavati devi dasi
Laksmana das

Bhavatarini devi dasi
Krsna Bhrnga das


Citra Vilasini devi dasi
Bhaktivinoda das


Sri Radhika devi dasi
Brhat Mrdanga das


Gandiva devi dasi
Caturbhuja das

Sudamani devi dasi
Harichandan das

Sudevi Sundari devi dasi
Tarun Krishna das


Saci devi dasi
Hrdaya Govinda das


Visakha Priya devi dasi
Sankarsana das

Yogini devi dasi
Srinatha das

Panchali devi dasi
 


Krsna Kanti devi dasi

Amrta devi dasi

Purnamasi devi dasi

Congregations:

Bhakta Fai

Bhakta Haridas
Bhakta Darshan Patel


Bhakta Bharga Darshan
Bhaktin Rebecca
Mr. & Mrs. N. Sharma


Bhaktin Margaret
Bhakta Yeung Chi Kit


Bhaktin Mrs. Cheok
Bhakta Lo Hung Cheung


Bhaktin Shelina
Bhakta Ka Li

Bhaktin Bharka
Bhakta Jimmy

Bhaktin Purvi
Bhakta Jhon

Bhaktin Parthibha
Bhakta David

Bhaktin Shakshi
Bhakta Mo.

Bhaktin Rohini
Bhakta Dhananjaya


Bhaktin Vinita
Bhakta Manoj & Wife


Bhaktin Yogita
Bhakta Peter & Wife


Bhaktin Venu
Bhaktin Man
Bhakta Ranjit
Bhakta Rakesh Gupta
Bhakta Kabel
Bhakta Wu Chung Fai
Bhakta Pratheek
Bhakta Bhagavan

Khasa - New Braja

Initiated members:

Gaurasundara das


Krishna Premi devi dasi
Murari das

Padma Locana devi dasi
Nama Acharya das


Satarupa devi dasi
Rajendra das

Surabhi devi dasi
Sucandra das

Guru Priti devi dasi
Saranga das

Congregations:

Bhaktin Liu
Cheng F.

Bhaktin Ma
Dao


Bhaktin Orange
Bhakta Ding

Bhaktin Chang
Jiping


Bhaktin Wang
Kao S.Y.

Bhaktin Yang
Lintao
Bhakta Shun
Chan C.M.


Khasa - New Govardhana

Initiated members:

Chandrasekhara Acharya das

Ananda devi dasi
Hari Vilasa das

Candrika devi dasi
Krishna das

Ekayani devi dasi
Lagudi das

Kunda devi dasi
Prema-dharma das


Yamini devi dasi

Congregations:

Bhakta Chen

Bhaktin Jun
Bhakta Tang

Bhaktin Li
Bhakta Tong

Bhaktin Qing
Bhakta Zheng

Bhaktin Wei

Bhaktin Xian

Bhaktin Xiang

Khasa - Shantipur

Gauranga Prema dasa


Cintamani devi dasi
Karuna Krsna das


Jamuna Priya devi dasi
Sibi das

Radha -dyuti devi dasi
Yamaraja das

Satya devi dasi
Yudhamanya dasa

Shyama-Radhika devi dasi

Vrnda devi dasi

Laksmana devi dasi

Bhaktin Yang
Congregations:

Fallen Ling

Li Wei-Dong
Li Wei-Hong

Bhaktin Yang


Khasa - New Shyama Kunda

Initiated members:

Sridhar dasa
Chandra das
Laxmi devi dasi

Congregations:

Bhakta Cheng
Bhakta Zheng


Khasa - New Nandagram

Initiated members:
Jabali das

Prema Manjari devi dasi

Bhaktin Madhuri (daughter)

Khasa - New Uddhava Kunda

Gaudiya das (initiated)


Khasa - New Navadvip

Hasyagrami das (initiated)

Congregations:

Bhaktin Zhau
Bhaktin Nata Rhajani


Khasa - New Kusumsarova

Initiated members:

Ajita das
Padmini devi dasi
Lohitaksa das
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Letter COM:2496685 (5 lines)
From:      Sankirtana (das) LOK (Taiwan)
Date:      22-Jul-99 12:28
To:        Internet News [49545]
Subject:   vote

I reject the Ritvik system for ISKCON.

Humbly,

Sankirtan dasa (TP in Taipei)
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Letter COM:2498660 (17 lines)
From:      Racitambara (dd) ACBSP (Mayapur Education)
Date:      23-Jul-99 06:31
To:        Internet News [49577]
Cc:        Ajamila (das) ACBSP (Goloka Books - GB) [9756]  (received: 23-Jul-99
           07:19)
Subject:   Vote

Racitambara dasi, ACBSP, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Vedasara das, HKS, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Tara das, HDG, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Bhadra Nitai das, JPS, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Jayada Radhika dd, JPS, New Govardhan Farm  reject ritvikism
Jagadeesh das, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Nimai das, SPY, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Devaki Bhakti dd, JPS, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Saran Mukhi dd, JPS, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Radha Prema dd, JPS, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Guru Prema das, JPS, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Krsna Vahan das, JPS, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Kasinath das, aspiring JPS, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
Harinam Avatara das, JPS, Mayapur Gurukula reject ritvikism
Sri Nityananda das, GKG, Mayapur Gurukula  reject ritvikism
plus:
35 kids from Mayapur Gurukula all strongly reject ritviksim
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Letter COM:2498676 (11 lines)
From:      Yudhisthira (das) SRS (Nat. Secretary of Hungary)
Date:      23-Jul-99 06:36
To:        Internet News [49578]
Subject:   vote

Dear prabhu, please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila
Prabhupada.

1) spiritual name: Yudhisthira dasa,
2.)  temple: Budapest Temple, Hungary,
3.) spiritual status: second initiation, national secretary, GBC deputy

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate and vote FOR Ajamila
das A.

Your servant: Yudhisthira dasa
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Letter COM:2498693 (30 lines)
From:      Sukadeva das (Melbourne - AU)
Date:      23-Jul-99 06:44
To:        Internet News [49579]
Subject:   Vote

Dear Ajamila Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada.

I have received your "Vote" appeal letter. Here is our (my wife and I) vote:

Name:                           Sukadeva Dasa and Varshana  Dasi
Nearest Temple:                        Melbourne, Australia
Spiritual Status:             Initiated and trying to be servants of Srila
Prabhupada and Their Lordship Sri Sri Radhavallabha

WE TOTALY REJECT THE RITVIKISM. For simple reasons,
 We have parampara system, it comes from Lord Krishna, Lord Brahma, Narada,
Vyasa........Bhaktivinoda Thakura, Gaura Kishor Babaji, Srila Bhaktisidhanta
Saraswati Thakura, H D G A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, his diciples
(at present) The retviks are saying "THAT'S IT FOLKS PARAMPARA STOPS WITH
SRILA PRABHUAPAD... THE END" What a nonsence, this parampara will CARRY ON
IT WILL NOT STOP WITH SRILA PRABHUPADA.

According to Srimad Bhagavatam,  other scriptures, and acaryas EVEN
dog-eaters can be vaisnavas, and initiate diciples.

WE TOTALY REJECT THE RITVIKISM.

Hare Krishna

Your servants
Sukadeva Dasa
Varshana Dasi
Gaura Shakti Das (our 4 years old son)
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Letter COM:2498722 (13 lines)
From:      Internet: Shalini.Radha@mercantilemutual.com.au
Date:      23-Jul-99 06:45
To:        Internet News [49580]
Subject:   voting

 

This letter is for voting Ajamila Das Adhikari on the ritvik debate for the
following people:

1. Radha Shalini devi dasi, Sydney temple, brahmacharini and I reject the
ritvikism presented in the chakra debate.
2. Govardhan das, Sydney temple, grahast asharam, rejecting the ritvikism
presented in the chakra debate.
3. rochana Devi dasi, Sydney temple, rejecting the ritvikism presented in
the chakra debate.

Hope this helps to save iskcon
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Letter COM:2498831 (3 lines)
From:      Srimate (dd) HKS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      23-Jul-99 07:50
To:        Internet News [49581]
Subject:   VOTE

I vote AGAINST the rtviks on Chakra website debate. My name is Srimate
Dasi, I have been an initiated devotee for 18 years and preaching in Mayapur
for the last 15 years.
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Letter COM:2498879 (10 lines)
From:      Nalinikanta (dd) SRS (NE-BBT Hungarian)
Date:      23-Jul-99 08:20
To:        Internet News [49582]
Subject:   Vote

Pamho, AGTSP.

I reject the ritvikism presented on the Chakra debate and vote for Ajamila
das.

Nalini Kanta dd
Budapest Temple,
Hungary

Full time editor in Hungarian BBT
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Letter COM:2498918 (10 lines)
From:      Rupa Manjari (dd) LOK (Radhadesh - B)
Date:      23-Jul-99 08:31
To:        Internet News [49583]
Subject:   VOTE

Dear Prabhu`s,

Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

My spiritual name is Rupa Manjari d.d.
I`am living in the temple "Radhadesh"Belgium
my spiritual status is; Brahmana, widow.

I would like to reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2498930 (5 lines)
From:      James Schultz (Melbourne - AU)
Date:      23-Jul-99 08:41
To:        Internet News [49584]
Subject:   VOTE

Name: Bhakta James
Spiritual status: under shelter of HH Indradyumna Swami
Nearest temple: Melbourne, Australia

I reject the ritvikism presented in the chakra debate
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Letter COM:2498969 (34 lines)
From:      Nikhilananda (das) ACBSP (D)
Date:      23-Jul-99 08:53
To:        Internet News [49585]
Subject:   vote

Please mail to Chakra ( can be published ) :

Regarding the vote for or against ritvik, I am against ritvik system,
so you -can- count my vote on Chakra against ritvik.

However : I also believe that we have to approach the justified concerns and
worries behind the ritviks agressive and extreme positions and try
not to polarize even more by taking defensive and extremists positions
ourselves.

Most importantly, Iskcon should give up their policy of  appointing gurus or
giving the title of guru to some, which has created so much havoc and
instead accept the system that guru simply becomes guru by qualification
and by following parampara without deviation - not by title or appointnment
- The iskcon leadership should apologize for that grave mistake of
appointing gurus which has split the community of Prabhupada disciples.
The GBC should give up that position and sincerely apologize to all those
Prabhupada disciples who were discouraged and treated as third class and
often still are because they never received or even wanted that title.

By appointing gurus Iskcon also wrongly takes responsibility for those who
fall down, so each fall down increases distrust into iskcon s leadership.
It is obvious that none of the disciples of Prabhupada can claim authority
as guru in an absolute sense but has to prove himself constantly by
qualification, the main qualification being not deviating from
the teachings of parampara and not adding or subtracting anything.
It is sickening to see that some "gurus" preach their subjective opinions
and speculations about UFO s and such goofy stuff while claiming absolute
authority over the rational lives of their diciples.
And it is time that the Prabhupada disciples move closer together,
by overcoming artificial elitarian designastions and reunite in the
preaching and loving cooperation, to please HDG Srila Prabhupada,
Your servant Nikhilananda Dasa
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Letter COM:2499312 (5 lines)
From:      Mandira Mani (dd) IDS (Christchurch - NZ)
Date:      23-Jul-99 11:07
To:        Internet News [49597]
Subject:   VOTE

My name is Mandira Mani, I am from Christchurch, New Zealand.

I absolutely reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Thank you.
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Letter COM:2499316 (5 lines)
From:      Premanandi (dd) IDS (Split - HR)
Date:      23-Jul-99 11:08
To:        Internet News [49598]
Subject:   VOTE

My name is Premanandi dasi, I am from Croatia.

I absolutely reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Thank you.
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Letter COM:2499332 (9 lines)
From:      Laxmimoni (dd) ACBSP (Vaisnava Academy for Girls - USA)
Date:      23-Jul-99 11:14
To:        Internet News [49599]
Subject:   vote

Laxmimoni dasi
initiated by Srila Prabhupada in 1969.
Presently fully engaged in ISKCON education
nearest temple:  Alachua Florida


I reject the rtvick philosophy.
Your servant,
Laxmimoni dasi
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Letter COM:2499339 (7 lines)
From:      Mahakratu (das) ACBSP (UK-Festivals)
Date:      23-Jul-99 11:17
To:        Internet News [49600]
Subject:   VOTE

My vote is always with Sadhu, sastra and guru. So let's forget about PSR and
get on with the preaching and reforming ISKCON to the way the Srila
Prabhupada intended. That means qualified Gurus who don't fall down.

Your servant
Mahakratu das
camp:Nava Narasingha Ksetra, Germany
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Letter COM:2499359 (2 lines)
From:      Sri Prahlada (das) HDG
Date:      23-Jul-99 11:23
To:        Internet News [49601]
Subject:   vote ritvikism

My name is Sri Prahlada das, and am a preacher here in Poland. I vote that
ritvikism as a bogus concoction. Our nearest temple is in Warsaw.
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Letter COM:2499394 (1 line)
From:      Godrumadwipa (das) (Madrid - E)
Date:      23-Jul-99 11:32
To:        Internet News [49604]
Subject:   vote

Puspa Gopal and Godrumadwipa das vote against the Philosophy of  Ritvik
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Letter COM:2499405 (5 lines)
From:      Devaki (dd) PVS (Riga - LV)
Date:      23-Jul-99 11:35
To:        Internet News [49605]
Subject:   vote

I, Devaki dd, presently serving as Vice-president at Riga temple in Latvia,
would like to declare that I reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra
debate.

Your servant Devaki dd
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 Letter COM:2499637 (3 lines)
From:      Trayimaya (das) HKS (Aarhus - DK)
Date:      23-Jul-99 12:56
To:        Internet News [49607]
Subject:   vote

One vote against ritvikism as presented in the chakra-debate.

From Trayimaya dasa. Thorsgade 19, 8410 Roende, Denmark.
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Letter COM:2499793 (1 line)
From:      Mahatma (das) ACBSP (Vrindavan - IN)
Date:      23-Jul-99 14:10
To:        Internet News [49608]
Subject:   votes

One vote for the living guru (if he is bonafide of course).
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Letter COM:2500138 (9 lines)
From:      Isvara Krsna (das) SRS (Budapest - H)
Date:      23-Jul-99 16:32
To:        Internet News [49611]
Cc:        Yudhisthira (das) SRS (Nat. Secretary of Hungary) [5575]
Subject:   vote

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate and vote FOR Ajamila
das A.

Spiritual name: Isvara Krsna dasa
Temple: Budapest, Hungary
I have two initiations from Srila Sivarama Swami Maharaja.

Ys:
Isvara Krisna dasa
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Letter COM:2500208 (36 lines)
From:      Hitakari (das) HKS (Osijek - HR)
Date:      23-Jul-99 16:56
To:        Internet News [49612]
Subject:   vote

Pamho!AgtSP!
Hare Krishna

Here are votes from our temple and congregatonal member who don't have
computer.


Viracandra das
Grihasta , Temple president
Temple Osijek, Croatia
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Madhavi Devi dasi
Grihasta
Temple Osijek, Croatia
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Mathilananda devi dasi
unmarried
Temple Osijek, Croatia
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Igor Dordevic
unmarried
Temple Osijek, Croatia
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Mladen Carapovic
unmarried
Temple Osijek,Croatia
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Hitakari das
Brahmacari
Temple Osijek,Croatia
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2500306 (9 lines)
From:      Das Avatara (das) HKS (NJNK - D)
Date:      23-Jul-99 17:25
To:        Internet News [49615]
Subject:   VOTE

My name is Dasavatara Dasa. I`m living near Nava-Jiyada-Nrsimha-Ksetra in
Germany. I`m involved in producing a regular newsletter for the
congregation, responsible for communication and taking care of the
congregation.

I do not agree with the arguments presented by devotees suggesting a
rtvik-system for ISKCON. Just because some of the gurus in ISKCON have had
some problems with their spiritual practices that does not mean the system
as such is useless.
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Letter COM:2500309 (6 lines)
From:      Gaura-Nandini (dd) JPS (Wiesbaden - D)
Date:      23-Jul-99 17:28
To:        Internet News [49616]
Subject:   VOTE

...For ISKCON against the Ritviks on the CHAKRA website.

Gaura-Nandini devi dasi,Hohenstein-Wiesbaden yatra,Germany.


I reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra dabate.
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Letter COM:2500373 (6 lines) [W1]
From:      Caitya-guru (das) SRS (Szeged - Hungary)
Date:      23-Jul-99 17:53
To:        Internet News [49617]
Cc:        Yudhisthira (das) SRS (Nat. Secretary of Hungary) [5576]
Subject:   VOTE

"I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate and vote FOR Ajamila
das A"

1. Caitya guru dasa,  Szeged - Hungary, brahmacari
2. Dharmaketu dasa, Szeged - Hungary, brahmacari
3. Bh. Róbert Szeged - Hungary, brahmacari
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Letter COM:2500407 (7 lines)
From:      Pracarananda (das) SS (Bialystok - PL)
Date:      23-Jul-99 17:57
To:        Internet News [49618]
Subject:   VOTE

Pracarananda dasa, Bialystok Center, Warsaw Temple
Secretary of Polish National Council
GBC Deputy
"I hereby reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate"

Kalindi devi dasi, my wife
"I hereby reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate"
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Letter COM:2491126 (57 lines)
From: Krsna Kirtan (das) PVS (TP Novosibirsk - R)
Date: 20-Jul-99 13:43
To: Internet News [49352]
Subject: VOTE

We, devotees of West Siberia Region of Russia, reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate:

# Spiritual Name Status Temple

1 Visnu-tirtha das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
2 Visnu-Tattva das Adhikari Barnaul
3 Vatsanasa das Adhikari Novosibirsk
4 Vaijayanti Mala dasi Novosibirsk
5 Tarakanath das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
6 Syamala devi dasi Novosibirsk
7 Sundar Gopal das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
8 Sripati das Adhikari Novosibirsk
9 Sarva Mangala devi dasi Novosibirsk
10 Sakulina devi dasi Novosibirsk
11 Rupa Raghunath das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
12 Ramai das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
13 Ragini dasi Novosibirsk
14 Radha Caran das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
15 Nirakula devi dasi Novosibirsk
16 Nanda Tanuja das Adhikari Novosibirsk
17 Nanda Maharaj das Adhikari Novosibirsk
18 Nanda devi dasi Novosibirsk
19 Mati das Adhikari Novosibirsk
20 Mathura Mukhi devi dasi Novosibirsk
21 Manibhumi-gata devi dasi Novosibirsk
22 Madhupriya dasi Novosibirsk
23 Locanananda das Adhikari Novosibirsk
24 Lila Sakti devi dasi Barnaul
25 Lalita Kunda devi dasi Novosibirsk
26 Laksmikanta das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
27 Labangalatika devi dasi Novosibirsk
28 Krsna Kund das Adhikari Novokuznetsk
29 Krsna Kirtan das Adhikari Novosibirsk
30 Krsna Caitanya das Adhikari Novosibirsk
31 Kritamala devi dasi Novosibirsk
32 Kisor Kisori das Adhikari Novosibirsk
33 Jugal Kisor das Adhikari Novosibirsk
34 Jagannatha Misra das Adhikari Novosibirsk
35 Jagad Guru das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
36 Carudesna das Brahmacari Novosibirsk
37 Cakradhara das Adhikari Novosibirsk
38 Bhakti Marga devi dasi Novosibirsk
39 Avyanga das Adhikari Novosibirsk
40 Avijnata das Adhikari Novosibirsk
41 Apsarasa devi dasi Novosibirsk
42 Amara das Adhikari Novosibirsk
43 Advaita Candra das Adhikari Novosibirsk
44 Aditya das Adhikari Novosibirsk
45 Acintya dasi Novosibirsk
46 Krsna Rupa devi dasi Novosibirsk
47 Sarva Mangala devi dasi (BVS) Novosibirsk
48 Laghu Hari das Adhikari Kemerovo
49 Antaratma das Adhikari Tomsk
50 Nityangi devi dasi Barnaul
We reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate!!!
Hare Krsna!
(Text COM:2491126)
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Letter COM:2492021 (5 lines)
From:      Anuttara (dd) HKS (Almvik - S)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:33
To:        Internet News [49392]
Subject:   VOTE

My spiritual name is Anuttara dd initiated by HKS 1986 in Sweden.
I am in the grihasta ashram, we have one boy called Radhangi, 5 year old.
I live very near New Chandodoya Mandir (Almviks Gaard) in Sweden.
I am completely against Chakra websites Ritvik proposal.
Iam voting against it. Thats all.
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Letter COM:2492048 (7 lines)
From:      Amala Bhakti (dd) MVS (Radhadesh - B)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:42
To:        Internet News [49393]
Subject:   VOTE

Haribol

I, Amala Bhakti devi dasi, from Radhadesh(Belgium) am against the Ritvik
nonsense as presented on CHAKRA
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

All Glories to Sri Guru and Gauranga !
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Letter COM:2492062 (11 lines)
From:      Kancana-vali (dd) SRS (Belfast - GB)
Date:      20-Jul-99 18:51
To:        Internet News [49394]
Subject:   Vote

My Name: Kancana-vali dd

Temple of residence: Belfast, N.Ireland

Spiritual Status: Brahmana, following 4 regs, chanting 16 rounds, regularly
reading Prabhupada's books, attending full morning programme, doing full
temple service.

I completely reject the ritvilism as it was presented in the Chakra debate.
It is bogus & extremely offensive to both Srila Prabhupada & our esteemed
disciplic succession (past, present & future).
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Letter COM:2492083 (23 lines)
From:      Bhagavat Dharma (das) SS (Heidelberg - D)
Date:      20-Jul-99 19:02
To:        Internet News [49395]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Bhagavat dharma dasa. I am a disciple of Srila Suhotra swami. I
am living near Heidelberg Temple in Germany together with my family. I
reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

My name is Gaurangi dd. I am a disciple of HH Srila Sacinanadana Swami. I am
living near Heidelberg Temple in Germany together with my family. I reject
the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

My name is Nanda Gopal dasa. I am living near Heidelberg Temple in Germany
together with my family. I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA
debate.

My name is Tailangi dd. I am an aspirant disciple of HH Srila Tamala Krsna
Goswami. I am living near Belgrad Temple in Jugoslavia together with my
family. I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

My name is Rasamurti dd. I am a disciple of HH Srila Das Bhaktivaibhava
Swami. I am living near Heidelberg Temple in Germany together with my
family. I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

My name is Damodar deva dasa. I am a disciple of HH Srila Jayapataka Swami.
I am living near Heidelberg Temple in Germany together with my family. I
reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2492097 (5 lines)
From:      Lalita-Gopinatha (dd) SS (Gothenburg - S)
Date:      20-Jul-99 19:15
To:        Internet News [49396]
Subject:   VOTE

Lalita-Gopinatha dasi
Gothenburg Temple, Sweden
ISKCON member, 1st init.

I hereby state that I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2492099 (4 lines)
From:      Akrura (das)
Date:      20-Jul-99 19:16
To:        Internet News [49397]
Subject:   VOTE

Akrura das
Temple Sarajevo Bosnia
2nd initiated, preacher
I reject ritvikism presented in Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2492135 (5 lines)
From:      Ganga (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      20-Jul-99 19:31
To:        Internet News [49398]
Subject:   VOTE

Me GANGADAS from Mayapur India , and my wife Raseswari DD are against this
nonsense ritvik speculation .
Therefore we are voting in favour of HG Ajamila Prabhu` !
I BEG TO REMAIN YOUR SERVANT
GANGADAS
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Letter COM:2492186 (9 lines)
From:      Vaidyanath (das) ACBSP (Hamburg - D)
Date:      20-Jul-99 19:56
To:        Internet News [49399]
Subject:   Vote

spiritual name:             Vaidyanath das
nearest temple:             Hamburg preaching program
spiritual status:             Srila Prabhupada's disciple since 1973, married
since 1984, 3 children, working outside temples
since 1989

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

YS Vaidyanath das
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Letter COM:2492193 (8 lines)
From:      Niramaya (dd) HKS (NE-BBT)
Date:      20-Jul-99 19:59
To:        Internet News [49400]
Subject:   VOTE

PAMHO, AGTSP & ISKCON Guru's.

My name is Niramaya devi dasi
I am living in New Radhadakund, Korsnaes Gaard, S-147 92 Groedinge, Sweden
I am first initiated by former Harikesa Maharaja
I reject the ritviksm presented in the CHAKRA debate

Your servant, Niramaya devi dasi
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Letter COM:2492286 (4 lines)
From:      Nandanangana (dd) HKS (Sarajevo - BiH)
Date:      20-Jul-99 20:30
To:        Internet News [49401]
Subject:   FW: debata na chakri


Nandanangana d.d. - ISKCON Sarajevo, BiH, Lider of Communications of
yatra of Croatia - Bosnia and Hercegovia. Of course, I reject
>stupidities of ritviks.
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Letter COM:2492289 (15 lines)
From:      Rati Manjari (dd) TKG (Radhadesh - B)
Date:      20-Jul-99 20:37
To:        Internet News [49402]
Subject:   vote

My name is Rati Manjari devi dasi, I live in Amsterdam, Holland, and visit
the temple there. My 'spiritual status' I am not sure about, but I am
initiated in 1991 by HH Tamal Krishna Goswami and before that by Bhagavan
Prabhu. Now I am a divorced mother of a three year old son. I have joined
ISKCON in 1984 and despite everything that I have witnessed and experienced
in regards to the falldown of gurus in ISKCON, I am against the ritivik
doctrine.

I hope this information is of some use to you.

Succes in your mission!!

Your servant,

Rtai Manjari dd
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Letter COM:2492371 (9 lines)
From:      Internet: Ajita <ad@in.com.au>
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:06
To:        Internet News [49403]
Subject:   Ritvick

Ajita das
New Govardhana: President
Brisbane: Vice president

I completely reject the ritvik so-called philosophy as it is not approved by
neither sastra, guru or sadhu, so do the 20 brahmacaries and 20 grhasta
couples that work with us.
All the best
ys
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Letter COM:2492372 (6 lines)
From:      Tarunyamrta (dd) (IC) (B)
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:13
To:        Internet News [49404]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Tarunyamrta dasi, temple commander ISKCON temple Antwerp,
Amerikalei 184, 2000 Antwerp,  Belgium

Purna Tattva dasa, templepresident ISKCON temple Antwerp.

We strongly reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
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Letter COM:2492403 (48 lines)
From:      Internet: Ajita <ad@in.com.au>
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:19
To:        Internet News [49406]
Subject:   Rit

Yadavendra Sankirtan
Bk Rhys      Sankirtan

SWAYAMBHU DAS   Senior Resident
PHANINAYAK DAS    Cook
DEVAGAURA HARI DAS   Sankirtan
DHRUVA DAS                      Sankirtan
ANANTARA DAS                Head Pujari
VRAJA GAURANGA           Sankirtan
MATSYA AVATARA               College
BRHAD MRDANGA               Temple commander
MANAPATI DAS                      Maintenance
BK. MICHAEL                         FFL
BK. FRANCIS                Sankirtan /Gardener
KRSNA DAS                            Sankirtan
BK. LEEROY                        Maintenance
BK. KURT                      Shopping
BK JULIAN                    FFL
BK. YAROSLAV            Computer brain
TIRTHARAJA DAS        President
SUNDARANANDA DAS   Restaurant Manager
YADUNATH DAS                Cook
YOGESWARA DAS            Cook
MAHABUDDHI DAS            Pujari
BK PIERRE                            congregation
Arvind                                        congregation
Pradeep                                 congregation
Murari Hari                                 congregation
TARAKA DD
SVETAMANJARI
SWARANLATA
SHAKI VRNDA DD
VILASAMANJARI D
DHRITIGOPI  DD
ANURAGINI DD
BKNE MASHA
BHAVATARINI DD  All mothers
BHAYADA DD
BKNE SUE
LALITARADHA D
HARIPRANA DD More mothers


All from Brisbane temple and we are all against the ritvik philosophy as we
are too busy following Prabhupada's orders and chanting dancing and taking
prasadam.

Your servants
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Letter COM:2492419 (13 lines) [W1]
From:      Madhava (das) BCS (Antwerp - B)
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:31
To:        Internet News [49407]
Subject:   Vote

Madhava dasa
Antwerp, Belgium
ghasta

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate

Bhaktin Rita
Antwerp, Belgium
wife of M€dhava d€sa

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate
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Letter COM:2492427 (11 lines)
From:      Govindananda (das) SNS (Zagreb - HR)
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:33
To:        Internet News [49408]
Subject:   VOTE

Hare Krishna!
Pamho!
Agt Srila Prabhupada!

Govindananda das desciple of H.D.G. Sacinandana Swami from Zagreb, where we
have temple with beautiful Sri Sri GaurNitai Deities.
My status is Bhaktisanga leader.

And I'm giving my vout to debat against ritviks!

ys gnd
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Letter COM:2492448 (7 lines)
From:      Srutidharma (das) SRS (GB)
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:45
To:        Internet News [49409]
Subject:   vote

I am voting for Ajamila, and so is my wife, and so do the following devotees
Pranabandu das, Nila madhava das, Pradyumnadas, Anirudha das, Dasrath das,
Yogindera das Damodara pandit das, we all reject the ritvik doc.

Your servant,

Srutidharma das.
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Letter COM:2492449 (9 lines)
From:      Matsya Avatara (das) BTS (Brisbane - AU)
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:45
To:        Internet News [49410]
Subject:   Vote against Ritvikism

Dear Ajamila Prabhu,

            PAMHO, All glories ot Srila Prabhupada.

PLease accept my vote in rejection of the ritvikism presented in the Chakra
debate.

Your servant,
Matsya Avatara dasa (1st init) Brisbane temple.
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Letter COM:2492453 (4 lines)
From:      Sesa (das) ACBSP (GBC)
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:46
To:        Internet News [49411]
Subject:   Vote

Reject ritvikism as presented in the
CHAKRA debate.

Sesa das, Alachua, FL
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Letter COM:2492476 (8 lines)
From:      Param Guru (das) DDG (Timisoara - RO)
Date:      20-Jul-99 21:51
To:        Internet News [49412]
Subject:   VOTE

PAMHO AGTSP

I'M PARAMA GURU DAS ADHIKARI FORM ROMANIA,
TIMISOARA TEMPLE,
I REJECT RITVIKISM

HARE KRISHNA
PG DAS
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Letter COM:2492807 (5 lines)
From:      Visnupriya-devi (dd) PVS (Adelaide - AU)
Date:      21-Jul-99 01:53
To:        Internet News [49424]
Subject:   Vote

visnupriya-devi dasi / Adelaide Temple South Australia / Second initiated
disciple of Prabhavisnhu Swami / I reject ritvikism in Iskcon

gour-gopinath dasa / Adelaide Temple South Australia / Second initiated
disciple of Jayapataka Swami / I reject ritvikism in Iskcon
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Letter COM:2492896 (10 lines)
From:      Vrinda-devi (dd) PDA (Portland, OR - USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 03:06
To:        Internet News [49425]
Subject:   VOTE

Name: Vrinda-devi dasi
How long in ISKCON: 3 years
Spiritual master: H.G. Prithu Prabhu
Vote: In favor of Ajamila (against Ritvikism)


Name: Jaya Govinda dasa
How long in ISKCON: 7 years
Spiritual master: H.G. Prithu Prabhu
Vote: In favor of Ajamila (against ritvikism)
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Letter COM:2492925 (3 lines)
From:      Nalaraja (das) HKS
Date:      21-Jul-99 03:27
To:        Internet News [49426]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Nalaraja dasa, I am traveling the world and I reject ritvikism as
presented in the chakra debate.
Hare Krsna and good luck
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Letter COM:2492933 (9 lines)
From:      Nayana-ranjana (das) (BBT Bombay - IN)
Date:      21-Jul-99 03:33
To:        Internet News [49427]
Subject:   VOTE

Name: Nayana-ranjana Dasa
Temple: ISKCON Juhu
Spiritual status: Brahmacari
Vote: Ajamila Prabhu is winner and Adri is the loser. Rtvikism is bogus

Name: Raghava Dasa
Temple: ISKCON Juhu
Spiritual status: Brahmacari
Vote: Ajamila Prabhu is winner and Adri is the loser. Rtvikism is bogus
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Letter COM:2492966 (88 lines)
From:      Internet: Arvind Baldeo <Arvind.Baldeo@cwo.com.au>
Date:      21-Jul-99 02:55
To:        Internet News [49428]
Subject:   RE: Easy voting against ritviks on COM

Hare Krishna

             I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

            ys
            ananda moya das
            Sydney Temple

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Letter COM:2492992 (12 lines)
From:      Samba (das) SDG (Mauritius)
Date:      21-Jul-99 04:00
To:        Internet News [49429]
Subject:   Vote

Type in your spiritual name........ Samba Das
nearest temple......................Phoenix Mauritius
spiritual status....................Very fallen

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Well actualy I have not read the debate on CHAKRA, but I do not accept the
posthumous ritvik theory, as propounded by Adridharan Prabhu, Krsna Kanth
Desai and their associates.

YS
Samba das
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Letter COM:2493002 (35 lines)
From:      Seva Swarup (das) JPS (Alachua, FL - USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 04:06
To:        Internet News [49430]
Subject:   VOTE

Hari Bol here are our family votes, we reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate

Seva Swarupa Das  (brahmana)
Adidevi devi dasi
Gourangi devi dasi
Chandra Lochana Gaura das
Temple of Alachua

just in case my sister did not read your letter here are their family names
Prema Nanda Gaura das
Mata Saci devi dasi
Balarama Chandra das
Krishna Kishora das
Temple of Alachua

my brother in law's sister's family
Bhakta Ariel
Bhaktin Yolanda
Nicolas Gopal
Food for Life Orlando

my brother in law's sister in law family
Ichcha Shakti devi dasi (brahmana)
Krishna Dhama d.d.
Yadurani d.d.

this family does not have a computer but they are also againts ritvikism
Janardana das (brahmana)
Ananta Lila devi dasi
Narayana das
Saunaka das
Jaganatha das
Temple of Alachua
Temple of Alachua
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Letter COM:2493016 (15 lines)
From:      Ciranjiva (das) (Malaysia)
Date:      21-Jul-99 04:18
To:        Internet News [49431]
Subject:   VOTE

Haribol Prabhus, Pamho. AGTSP.

We reject the ritvikism presented in CAKRA. Their philosophies are not
according to sastric siddhanta and should be considered as apa-sampradaya.

Ciranjiva das (former disciple of Harikesa prabhu)
ISKCON, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
National Adviser to ISKCON Malaysia and sub-division manager of BBT
Indonesia.

Candravali dd (former disciple of Harikesa prabhu)
ISKCON, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia
cook

Ys, Cij and Candr
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Letter COM:2493091 (7 lines)
From:      (Bhakta) Edward Pattillo (Bayswater - AU)
Date:      21-Jul-99 05:35
To:        Internet News [49432]
Subject:   vote

Bhakta Edward Pattillo

brahmacari

ISKCON Perth, Western Australia

I reject the ritvik mayavarde philosophy.
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Letter COM:2493106 (93 lines)
From:      Vijaya-venugopala (das) JPS (Persian Gulf)
Date:      21-Jul-99 05:40
To:        Internet News [49433]
Subject:   VOTE

We , the following devotees of Mathura desh, Persian Gulf, REJECT the Post
Samadhi ritvik heresy.


Prema Padmini Devi Dasi
Sarvlokeshvara Krishna Dasa
Amar Nitai Dasa
Madhava Krishna Dasa
Bhakta Avatara Dasa
Brajagopinath Dasa
Sukirti Krishna Dasa
Amani Gauranga Das
Amita Krishna Das
Advaita Gauranga Das
Arjuna Vallabha Das
Bindu Malini Devi Dasi
Dinamani Gaura Das
Divya Keshava Das
Hari  Madhava Das
Aja Madhava Das
Akincana Gaura Das
Campakalata Candrika Devi Dasi
Rasa Gaurahari Das
Radhika Natha Das
Manohara Caitanya Das
Dayanidhi Nityananda Das
Gaudeshvara Gauranga Das
Malini Kanti Devi Dasi
Madhava Prema Das
Priya Chaitanya Das
Rupeshwar Krishna Das
Raja Caitanya Das
Radha Leela Devi Dasi
Satya Gaura Narayana Das
Tusta Govinda Das

Hemango Chaitanya Dasa
Mitra Govinda Dasa
Aravinda Madhava Das
Baghavan Caitanya Das
Vasantha Raga Devi Dasi
Devaki Priya Devi Dasi
Madanmohan Caitanya Das
Srikanti Devi Dasi
Sugama Krishna Das
Sanatana Sevak Das
Ananda madhava Das
Vedavit Nimai Dasa
Bhimacyuta Gaura Das
Kamakala Gopi Devi Dasi
Satyesa Govinda Das
Saumya Gaurangi Devi Dasi
Simha Vikrama Das
Srikanta Kanai Das
Kisora Govinda Das
Mathura Malathi Devi Dasi
Premanandini  Devi Dasi
Gaurangi Gopi Devi Dasi
Acyuta Nitai Das
Jaya Rasesvari Devi Dasi
Nimai Gauracandra Das
Nilambhar Krishna Das
RadhaGovinda Hari Das
Rani Radhika Devi Dasi

Vignanasana Govinda Dasa
Ashoka Krishna Dasa
Virabhadra Keshava Dasa
Nandakishore Dasa
Chaitanya Avatari Dasa
Rasamayi Devi Dasi
Gaurahari Guru Das
Mukunda Murari Dasa

Bala Gaur Krishna Das
Amoga Caitanya dasa
Durlabha Sevaka dasa
Hrsikesa Gopinatha dasa
Mahananda Hari dasa
Nityananda Sevaka dasa
Paramagati Krsna dasa
Balarama Karuna dasa
Puspahasa Krsna dasa
Sarva Caitanya Krsna dasa
Sumadhura Gadadhara dasa
Susukhi Gaura Sundara dasa
Krsna Kirti devi dasi
Amrta Daya devi dasi
Bhoktaram Gauranga dasa
Radha Bhava Gaura dasa
Bhakti Bhava devi dasi
Bhaktavatsala Nrsimha dasa
Rasa Rajendra dasa
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Letter COM:2493141 (4 lines)
From:      Isvara Krsna (das) HDG (Amirim - ISR)
Date:      21-Jul-99 05:59
To:        Internet News [49434]
Subject:   Re: Easy voting against ritviks on COM


 Name: Isvara Krsna das - HDG - Israel

 Vote: For the present system - against the ritvik system
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Letter COM:2493169 (19 lines)
From:      Naresvara (das) ACBSP (Sydney - AU)
Date:      21-Jul-99 06:11
To:        Internet News [49435]
Subject:   vote

Naresvara dasa - Sydney - disciple of A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Krsnarupa dasi - Sydney - disciple of A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Pratapana dasa - Sydney - disciple of A.C.Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Jayashri dasi - Sydney - disciple of Bhavananda Goswami (deceased)
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Gaura Jagannath dasa - Sydney - disciple of Tamal Krishna Goswami
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

I hope that the above is what you require for a proper vote. If not let me
know.

Ys
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Letter COM:2493199 (5 lines)
From:      Upendra (das) BRS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      21-Jul-99 06:27
To:        Internet News [49436]
Subject:   Vote.

My spiritual name - Upendra dasa.
Temple - Staying in ISKCON, Mayapur.
Spiritual Status - Grihasta.

I REJECT THE RITVIKISM DEBATE PRESENTED ON CHAKRA.
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Letter COM:2494233 <CIS:187911> (2 lines)
From:      Acarya Candra (das) PVS (TP, Kiev - UKR)
Date:      21-Jul-99 12:51
To:        Internet News [49471]
Subject:   VOTE

Acarya Candra (PVS) TP Kishinew Moldova
I reject the ritvic sistem.
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Letter COM:2494254 <CIS:187913> (2 lines)
From:      CIS: Aruni (dd) PVS (Kiev - Ukr) <Aruni.PVS@cis.bbt.se>
Date:      21-Jul-99 13:03
To:        Internet News [49472]
Subject:   VOTE

Aruni dd (PVS)
I reject the ritvic sistem
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Letter COM:2494271 (24 lines)
From:      Rohini Kumar (das) PDA (Honolulu, HI - USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 13:18
To:        Internet News [49473]
Subject:   VOTE

Dear Prabhus,
Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

Here are three votes against Ritvikism:

1-Rohini-kumar das
ISKCON CORK, Ireland
Brahmin, 4 regs, 16 rounds, teaching Bhakti-sastri at temple
Rejects ritvik theory.

2-Vaishnavi dasi
ISKCON CORK, Ireland
Brahmin, 4 regs, 16 rounds
Rejects ritvik theory.

3-Sri Rupa das
ISKCON CORK, Ireland
Hari-nam initiation, 4 regs, 16 rounds, Bhakti-sastri degree
Rejects ritvik theory.

All glories to your service,
Your servant,
Rohini-kumar das
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Letter COM:2494370 (30 lines)
From:      (Bhakta) Adam Filic (Pula - HR)
Date:      21-Jul-99 14:06
To:        Internet News [49474]
Subject:   VOTE

We reject ritvikism presented in Chakra debate.

Dinanatha das - PULA
Madhava priya d.d. - PULA
Darpa hari das - PULA
Vamsibihari das - PULA
Mahamaka das - PULA
Dharma-jna das - PULA
Kamsa hara d.d. - PULA
Sesa d.d. - PULA
Sankini d.d. - PULA
Ajitendra das - PULA
Darpaha das - PULA
Yasahpati das - PULA
Jagatpujya das - PULA
Vicitra d.d. - PULA
bh. Adam - PULA
bhn. Milena - PULA
bh. Neven - PULA
bhn. Mirjana - PULA
bh. Zeljko - PULA
bhn. Nevia - PULA
bh. Branko - PULA
bh. Boris - PULA
bh. Alen - PULA
bhn. Emina - PULA
bhn. Mirela - PULA
bhn. Zinaida - PULA
bh. Mladen - PULA
bhn. Mirela - PULA
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Letter COM:2494375 (7 lines)
From:      Vijaya (das) HDG (USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 14:07
To:        Internet News [49475]
Subject:   vote

Please accept my humble obeisances all glories to Srila Prabhupada.
  Hare Krsna,
  My name is Vijaya das, I base out of the LA temple, I'm a brahmacari and
my full-time service is distributing Srila Prabhupada's books, I do not
agree with the rtvik system, and vote no.

Hoping you are well, your servant, Vijaya das
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Letter COM:2494431 (6 lines)
From:      Kamadhenu (dd) TKG (Dallas, TX - USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 14:28
To:        Internet News [49476]
Subject:   VOTE

Kamadhenu devi dasi
Radha-Kalachandji Dhama
Dallas, Texas, USA
Second Initiate

I reject the ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2494457 (6 lines)
From:      (Bhaktin) Masha Bagnenko (Perm - R)
Date:      21-Jul-99 14:40
To:        Internet News [49478]
Subject:   Against Ritviks

My name is Masha Bagnenko. Me is inspiring disciple of Sri Rohini Suta
Prabhu. I live in Perm. Yes me is against Ritviks and their pholosophy. I
concider their arguments to be not founded and not proved by SP philosophy
and HDG last statements.

ys masa
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Letter COM:2494459 (4 lines)
From:      Kamadhenu (dd) TKG (Dallas, TX - USA)
Date:      21-Jul-99 14:41
To:        Internet News [49479]
Subject:   Vote

Yogamaya devi dasi
Dallas Temple
Second Initiate
I REJECT the ritvikism presented in the Chakra debate!
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Letter COM:2494532 (10 lines) [W2]
From:      Vipula (das) SS (Heidelberg - D)
Date:      21-Jul-99 15:10
To:        Internet News [49480]
Subject:   Vote

Vipula das, TP, temple Heidelberg, second initiation, Suhotra Swami´s
disciple.

Subhra dd, temple Heidelberg, first initiated from Harikes Swami.

Jahnavi dd, temple Heidelberg, second initiation, Sacinandana Swami´s
disciple.

We reject henceforward (from now till eternity) the ritvik theory as it was
presented in the Chakra debate and all other debates as well.
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Letter COM:2494545 (41 lines)
From:      Internet: upendra@dionis.mels.ru
Date:      21-Jul-99 11:18
To:        Internet News [49481]
Subject:   vote

I'm voting not for ritviks.
            My name is Ramananda pria das, my spiritual master is Rohini suta
prabhu,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. My service is preaching.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Vidarana das, my spiritual master is Rohini suta prabhu,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. My service is pujari.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Vanamaly kaviraj das, my spiritual master is Niranjana Swami,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. I'm the president of the temple.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Nagapatny dd, my spiritual master is Niranjana Swami,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. I'm the secretary of the yatra.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Manasa Ganga dd, my spiritual master is Prabhavishnu Swami,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. My service is FFL.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Ishana das, my spiritual master is Prabhavisnu Swami,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. I'm doing the work wich is connected with
the building of the temple.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Anukula das, my spiritual master is Bhaktivikasa Swami,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. My service is nama-hatta.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Ishvara Puri das, my spiritual master is Indradiumna Swami,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. My service is FFL and cooker.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Srimati dd, my spiritual master is Prabhavisnu Swami,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. My service is FFL and cooker.

I'm voting not for ritviks.
 My name is Purnatara dd, my spiritual master is Prabhavisnu Swami,
I live in Russia in Murmansk yatra. My service is FFM.
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Letter COM:2494548 (3 lines)
From:      Avidman (das) HKS (NJNK - D)
Date:      21-Jul-99 15:20
To:        Internet News [49482]
Subject:   vote

haribol, AGTSP
I vote for ISKCON. my name is Avidman das. now in Paris. some time ago on
the farm in Germany.
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Letter COM:2494554 (4 lines)
From:      Jatamamsi (dd) HKS (Bauneholm - DK)
Date:      21-Jul-99 15:23
To:        Internet News [49483]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Jatamamsi Devi Dasi, Im doing service in the New Srivas Angam
temple in Denmark as a treasurer.

I vote against the ritviks
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Letter COM:2494558 (18 lines)
From:      Internet: Natalie Schuchert <natalieschuchert@hotmail.com>
Date:      21-Jul-99 15:23
To:        Internet News [49484]
Subject:   voting against ritvik

Dear Devotees!

Please accept my humble obeisances. All Glories to Srila Prabhupada!

As I am not on the official ISKCON-com, I would like to use this adress to vote against the ritvikism presented in the chakra debate.

My name is Nalini Kanta d.d., I am a 25 years old German bodied devotee living in Zurich.

Haribol!

YS
Nalini Kanta d.d.

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Letter COM:2495612 (7 lines)
From:      Rupa Raghunath (das) SRS (Vrindavan - IN)
Date:      22-Jul-99 01:35
To:        Internet News [49521]
Subject:   vote

Rupa Raghunatha Dasa SRS
Vrindavan FFL
Brahmacari

I do not accept the ritvik status as presented on Chakra debate.
At the same time I do not accept out present situation either!
YS RRD
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Letter COM:2495630 (21 lines)
From:      Nanda Kumar (das) BCS (Cape Town - SA)
Date:      22-Jul-99 02:03
To:        Internet News [49522]
Subject:   VOTE

Current Location: Sri Sri Gaura Nitai mandir - Long Island, New York (USA)


Type in your spiritual name

NANDA KUMAR DAS  (BCS)

nearest temple,

CAPE TOWN

spiritual status,

TRAVELLING SECRETARY OF HH JAYAPATAKA SWAMI

and that you
reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate

I REJECT RITVIKISM !!!

Your humble servant, Nanda Kumar Das
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Letter COM:2495635 (8 lines)
From:      Deva-narayana (das) GKG (Toronto - CAN)
Date:      22-Jul-99 02:05
To:        Internet News [49523]
Subject:

            Hare Krishna!

            My spiritual name is Deva-narayana das.
            Toronto temple.
            Brahmacari.
            I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

            y.s. Deva-narayana d.
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Letter COM:2495685 (4 lines)
From:      Dayaram (das) JPS (Mayapur - IN)
Date:      22-Jul-99 02:50
To:        Internet News [49524]
Subject:   vote

I vote against ritvikvada.

Your servant
Dayaram das
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Letter COM:2495788 (7 lines)
From:      Rohini-dulal (das) JPS (Osijek - HR)
Date:      22-Jul-99 04:03
To:        Internet News [49525]
Subject:   vote

   Hare Krishna! Please accept my respects.

I,Rohini-dulal das,firt initiated disciple of HH Jayapataka Swami,from the
temple OsijekCroatia,vote for Iskcon;and i reject the ritvikism presented
in the CHAKRA debate.

    Your servant Rohini-dulal das
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Letter COM:2495791 (6 lines)
From:      Isana (das) HKS (Ljubljana - SLO)
Date:      22-Jul-99 04:03
To:        Internet News [49526]
Subject:   vote

PAMHO AGTSP

My name is Isana das, my nearest temple is temple Ljubljana,Slovenia. I am
second initiated and I am against ritvikism.

                               y.s.
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Letter COM:2495869 (11 lines)
From:      Vaidyanath (das) ACBSP (Hamburg - D)
Date:      22-Jul-99 04:58
To:        Internet News [49527]
Subject:   Vote

spiritual name: Ashok Kumar das
nearest temple: Hamburg preaching program
spiritual status: Initiated by Srila Prabhupada in 1973, married, working
outside
He rejects the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate

spiritual name: Jayagaura das
nearest temple: Hamburg preaching program
spiritual status: Initiated by Srila Prabhupada in 1971, married, working
outside
He rejects the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate
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Letter COM:2495870 (2 lines)
From:      Raghunath (das) HKS (Czarnow - PL)
Date:      22-Jul-99 04:59
To:        Internet News [49528]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Raghunath das. I'm a Temple Presidrnt of New Santipur (farm) in
Poland). Evry member of Temple reject ritvikism.
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Letter COM:2495939 (52 lines)
From:      Internet: Subuddhi Krishna Das <s_krsna@yahoo.com>
Date:      22-Jul-99 05:46
To:        Internet News [49529]
Subject:   Voting in ritvik debate

Ritvik Debate on Chakra

We have been following the ritvik debate on Chakra through Subuddhi
Krishna Prabhu.

We can say without hesitation that Ajamila Prabhu has provided all the
clues from guru, sadhu and sastra point of view and has emerged clear
winner. We fully endorse his presentation  and sincerely thank him and
Chakra for enlightening us on this issue.

Our vote is for Ajamila Prabhu & ISKCON.

Thank you,

Yours in guru parampara,


1. Vijay Gauranga dasa
2. Leelanatha dasa
3. Rucirangada dasa
4. Rupa Simha dasa     :
5. Deepapriya Radhika devi dasi
6. Sukirti Gaura dasa
7. Divya Dharma dasa
8. Meena Radha devi dasi
9. Nanda Cittahari dasa
10 Vijaya Radhika devi dasi
11. Sundara Srinivasa dasa


We are all disciples of HH Jayapataka Swami : Bangalore Yatra

11. Narendra Dube
12 Meenakshi Dube
13 Srigopal Sarda
14 Pushpa Sarda
15 Prema Rao
16 S Padmanabhan
17 Madhu Bhatnagar
18 R K Dham
19 Kirtilal Soni
20 Anisha Sangar
21 S Shubha

We have all accepted HH Jayapataka Swami as our spiritual master.

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Letter COM:2495956 (23 lines)
From:      Patita Pavana (das) BCAIS (Cape Town - SA)
Date:      22-Jul-99 05:56
To:        Internet News [49530]
Subject:   VOTE !

Dear Ajamila das Adikari Prabhu,

Please accept my humble obeisances.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada !

All glories to your service to counter Ritvik ridicule.

I hereby pledge to vote against the ritvik (stool- sorry for such language)
philosophy and rivikism in total, if it at all can be called a philosophy,
presented on the CHAKRA. I will always never accept it and always support
Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON, no matter what, and will encouraqge others to do
the same.

Iam a temple bramacari, first initiated, book distribution leader; disciple
of His Holiness Srila Bhakti Caitanya Swami. I have been an aspiring devotee
for three and a half years and am initiated for over a year now. I also do
travelling sankirtan.

Thank you.


Your humble servant
Patita Pavana das
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Letter COM:2496059 (7 lines)
From:      Internet: Kirtan Mistry <kirtan99@hotmail.com>
Date:      22-Jul-99 07:09
To:        Internet News [49531]
Subject:   Vote

i vote against ritviks,
name : Bhakta Kirtan,
temple : Lenasia, Johannesburg, South Africa

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Letter COM:2496076 (5 lines)
From:      Ananta-sarovara (dd) KKD (Ljubljana - SLO)
Date:      22-Jul-99 07:29
To:        Internet News [49532]
Subject:   vote

Ananta-sarovara devi dasi
Temple Ljubljana, Slovenia
no spiritual status,
but strongly against ritvikism
Jaya Prabhupada!
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Letter COM:2496084 (7 lines)
From:      Ugresa (das) (Cintamani Intl, Graz - A)
Date:      22-Jul-99 07:41
To:        Internet News [49533]
Subject:   VOTE

Ugresa Das
ISKCON AUSTRIA
Initiated by HKS

I do vote AGAINST the Ritvik proposal presented on the CHAKRA Webpage.

Ys Ugresa das
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Letter COM:2496085 (31 lines) [W1]
From:      Ugresa (das) (Cintamani Intl, Graz - A)
Date:      22-Jul-99 07:41
To:        Austrian Forum [191]
To:        Internet News [49534]
Subject:   Wahltermin

Liebe Devotess

Die Anhänger der Ritvik Philosophie haben in Calcutta, dem Hauptsitz von
ISKCON einen Gerichtsprozess initiert der zur Foge haben könnte, dass
jeglich Einweihungen von Gurus unterbunden werden.

Obwohl es sicherlich einer Guru Reform in ISKCON bedarf, und diese auch
schon eingeleited wurde, ist die Ritvik Philosophy wohl offensichtlich nicht
in Srila Prabhupadas Interesse.

Solltet Ihr ebenfalls Dieser Meinung sein bitte ich Euch baldigst eienen
ähnlichen Text wie den unteren an Internet News (COM) zu schicken.

Sollte Irgendjemand die Ritwick philosophy unterstützen, ist es auch gut.
Ich möchte an dieser stelle keine philosophische Diskusion beginnen.

Vielen Dank,

ED Ud

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In der Subject Zeile: VOTE

> Ugresa Das
> ISKCON AUSTRIA
> Initiated by HKS
>
> I do vote AGAINST the Ritvik proposal presented on the CHAKRA Webpage.
>
> Ys Ugresa das
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Letter COM:2496128 (8 lines)
From:      Janesvara (das) HKS (Almvik - S)
Date:      22-Jul-99 08:16
To:        Internet News [49535]
Subject:   voting

Pamho. I am certainly voting against the ritvik-idea and so is my wife Krsna
Bhakti dd.

We are gurukula teachers in ALmvik, Sweden, since 10 years. Before that we
have been doing sankirtan or translating Srila Prabhupada's books. We were
both initiated 1978.

ys Janesvara das. Krsna Bhakti dd
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Letter COM:2496272 (1 line) [W1]
From:      Kavicandra Swami (GBC Japan)
Date:      22-Jul-99 09:26
To:        Internet News [49536]
Subject:   anti ritvic vote

I vote in favor of Ajamila´s side
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Letter COM:2496715 (11 lines) [W1]
From:      Yadunandana (das) SDG (E)
Date:      22-Jul-99 12:32
To:        Internet News [49546]
Subject:   VOTE

PAMHO.AGTSP.

My name is Yadunandana dasa, usually staying at New Vrajamandala, the ISKCON
Farm in Spain. I´m coordinating the educational programs in Spain and also
am chairman for the managing council for New Vrajamandala and Madrid
temples.

I´m strongly AGAINSTS ritvikism as proposed in the chakra debate by
Adridharana dasa and strongly support Ajamila dasa´s arguments.

ys, Yadunandana dasa.
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Letter COM:2496911 (7 lines)
From:      Jagadisa (das) KCS (Ariel - Israel)
Date:      22-Jul-99 13:38
To:        Internet News [49547]
Subject:   vote

My name is Jagadisa dasa(disciple of H.H.Kavicandra Swami)
I'm connected to the Tel Aviv Temple-Israel

I completely reject the ritvikism and all what they say and concoct.

Ys,
Jagadisa dasa
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Letter COM:2496925 (2 lines)
From:      (Bhaktin) Aleksandra Cvetkovic (London, Soho St. - GB )
Date:      22-Jul-99 13:41
To:        Internet News [49548]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Aleksandra Cvetkovic. I live in the London Radha Krsna Temple
and I reject the ritvikism in the Chakra debate.
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Letter COM:2497071 (7 lines)
From:      (Bhaktin) Nadia Deutsch (Lindegg - A)
Date:      22-Jul-99 14:37
To:        Internet News [49549]
Subject:   vote

Bhaktin Nadia Deutsch
ISKCON AUSTRIA
aspiring dispiple of SNS

I do vote AGAINST the Ritvik proposal presented on the CHAKRA Webpage.

ys Bhn. Nadia
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Letter COM:2497080 (11 lines)
From:      Krsna Candra (das) GRS (BCEC - MAU)
Date:      22-Jul-99 14:41
To:        Internet News [49550]
Subject:   Vote

Krsna Candra das
Hare Krshna Land, Phoenix, Mauritius
Formerly temple president, now Registrar of Bhaktivedanta College of
education and culture.
Reject ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.


Saraswati devi dasi
Hare Krshna Land, Phoenix, Mauritius
Performing deity worship
Reject ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate
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Letter COM:2497085 (9 lines)
From:      (Bhaktin) Nadia Deutsch (Lindegg - A)
Date:      22-Jul-99 14:42
To:        Internet News [49552]
Subject:   VOTE

Bhn. Nadia Deutsch
ISKCON AUSTRIA
aspiring disciple of SNS


I do vote AGAINST the Ritvik proposal presented on the CHAKRA Webpage.

Ys Bhn. Nadia
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Letter COM:2497117 (51 lines)
From:      Smita Krsna (das) BCS (Durban - SA)
Date:      22-Jul-99 14:58
To:        Internet News [49553]
Subject:   Vote

The following devotees reject the arguments of the ritviks presented in the
Chakra debate and show support for the arguments of Ajamila Das Prabhu.


All of the following devotees are from the Sri Sri Radha Radhanath Temple of
Understanding, Chatsworth,  Durban, South Africa.


Shyamlal das - Srila Prabhupada's disciple, Restaurant Manager, Fund Raising
                        and Festivals

Rohininandan das - Preacher/Nama Hatta preaching,etc

Devrata das - Ratha Yatra Coodinating Committee, Festivals, Fund raising,
                  Head of Temple Legal affairs Committee

Dina Bandhu das - Temple President

Jaisacinandana das - Temple Vice President

Brhat mrdanga das - Bhaktivedata College of Education International Director
                            and Lecturer

Smita Krsna das - Bhaktivedanta College Lecture,  Minister of Education and
Training for local yatra.

Dana Gati das - Deity Department backup

Sri Murti d.d. - Restaurant Manageress

Radha Radhanath dasi - Deity Department/Pujari

Sukumari dasi - Temple Receptionist and Programmes Coordinator.

Bhakta Vinesan - Males sankirtan leader

Danistha dasi - Sankirtan devotee

Madhavi dasi - Sankirtan devotee

Tungavidya d.d. - Temple books and gifts; tour group leader/organizer

Mallika d.d. - Guest Accomodation and devotee cook

Svayambhu das - Pujari

Vrndvanesveri d.d. - Temple Preaching

Sudevi dasi - Pujari

Malati dasi - Assistant Cook and sankirtan
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Letter COM:2497301 (13 lines)
From:      Acaryavan (das) SDG (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK)
Date:      22-Jul-99 16:19
To:        Internet News [49554]
Subject:   vote

Dear prabhus
Please accept our humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada!

I am writing regarding the Chakra debate on Ritvikism.

As duly initiated members of Iskcon, (Satsvarupa Maharaja and Sivarama
Maharaja), and being regular members of the community at Bhaktivedanta
Manor,  myself Acaryavan das and my wife, Sangita Priya dasi would like to
vote against this Ritvikism as presented in the Chakra debate.

Thankyou,
Your servant,
Acaryavan das
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Letter COM:2497480 (2 lines)
From:      Candranani (dd) GRS (New Vrajamandala - E)
Date:      22-Jul-99 17:27
To:        Internet News [49555]
Subject:   Vote

My name is Candranani dasi, I live in New Vrajamandala, I am a brahmacarin.
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate
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Letter COM:2497481 (20 lines)
From:      Jiva Tattva (das) SDG (New Vrajamandala - E)
Date:      22-Jul-99 17:27
To:        Internet News [49556]
Subject:   "Vote"

Dear Prabhu;
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
(2 votes)
My name is Jiva Tattva das, I'm iniciated by H.H. Satsvarupa das Gosvami in
the 89. The nearest temple where I do services is in Malaga Temple, New
Varsana (Spain). My vote is clearly and against the ritvikism. My status is
chanting 16 rounds daily, follow the regulatives principles, to eat only
Krisna prasadam, study Prabhupada's books and give some monthly donation for
Krisna's services.
Hare Krisna!

Ranga devi dasi, iniciated by H.H. Satsvarupa das Gosvami in the 88, nearest
temple also New Varsana in Malaga (Spain). My vote is also against the
ritvick philosophy.
My status is chanting 16 rounds daily, follow the regulatives principles, to
eat only Krisna prasadam, study Prabhupada's books and give some monthly
donation for Krisna's services.

In the service of Prabhupada's Movement
Jiva Tattva das
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Letter COM:2497497 (4 lines)
From:      Dhipati (das) HKS (Zagreb - HR)
Date:      22-Jul-99 17:35
To:        Internet News [49557]
Subject:   Vote

Dhipati das,  Temple Zagreb,  1. innititation, brahmachary, pujari
I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate

Yh,  Dd
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Letter COM:2497552 (16 lines)
From:      Gaura Bhavana (das) BVS (Copenhagen - DK)
Date:      22-Jul-99 18:02
To:        Internet News [49558]
Subject:   VOTE

Here are different devotees' votes:

Gaura-bhavana das
ISKCON Copenhagen, New Srivas Angam - temple
Brahmacari, disciple of BVS.
-"I reject the 'philosophy' of ritvikism."

Parigraha das
ISKCON Copenhagen, NSA
Brahmacari, ex-disciple of HKS.
-"I reject the 'philosophy' of ritvikism."

Bh. Keld & Bhn. Sally Hansen
ISKCON Copenhagen, NSA
Grihasta-couple, congregational devotees, aspiring disciples of JPS.
-"We reject the 'philosophy' of ritvikism."
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Letter COM:2497659 (8 lines)
From:      Internet: Goura Nataraj das <nataraj@crt.sol.com.br>
Date:      21-Jul-99 14:34
To:        Internet News [49559]
Subject:   vote

Name: Goura Nataraj das (initiated by Srila Param Gachit Swami)

City: Curitiba/Brazil

I serve at the local preaching center, IBEV (Bhaktivedanta institute of Vedic
Studies).
I am voting  against the ritvikism for all the disturbance and nonsense that
they are preaching.
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Letter COM:2497677 (6 lines)
From:      Prema Harinama (das) BBGS (Bhaktivedanta Manor - UK)
Date:      22-Jul-99 18:56
To:        Internet News [49560]
Subject:   VOTING For Iskcon ,not for Ritwik

MY name is Prema Harinama das
initiatiated By BB Govinda Maharaj.
I live at The Bhaktivedanta Manor in London England.
And I vote AJamil Prabhu.
ys.
Prema Harinama das.
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Letter COM:2497768 (7 lines)
From:      Haridas Thakur (das) BCS (Graz - A)
Date:      22-Jul-99 19:37
To:        Internet News [49561]
Subject:   Vote

Hare Krsna.
Pamho,agtSP

I would like vote against the ritvik system.
Nearest temple Vienna.

Y.s Haridas Thakur das
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Letter COM:2497787 (17 lines)
From:      SFCP Gopala (Paramesvari dd & Maha-ratha das - YU)
Date:      22-Jul-99 19:39
To:        Internet News [49562]
Subject:   Voting

We would like to send three votes for rejecting ritvikism presenten in the
Chakra debate:

1) Paramesvari dd (RSD), Belgrade, first initiation from H.G. Rohinisuta
Prabhu,
   congregational devotee and president of the Society for Cow Protection
GOPALA
   from Novi Sad.

2) Maha-ratha das, Belgrade, first initation from HKS, congregational devotee.

3) bhakta Dragoslav Krsmanovic, Belgrade, accepted from H.G. Krsna-ksetra
Prabhu.
   Congregational devotee.

Thank you.
Your servants
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Letter COM:2497902 (19 lines)
From:      Vaikunthapati (das) JPS (Persian Gulf)
Date:      22-Jul-99 20:42
To:        Internet News [49563]
Subject:   VOTE

THE FOLLOWING ARE THE VOTES FROM "KRISHNA KATHA DESH " IN PERSIAN GULF
AGAINST RITVIKISM.

1.VAIKUNTAPATHY DAS
2. BHARATAGRAJA DAS
3. VIJAYA KALA DAS
4. VEERA GOVINDA DAS
5. RADHA JEVAN DAS
6. RAGUPATH RAMA DAS
7,PADMANABHA NITAI DAS
8.LOKAMATA LAKSMI DD
9, SUDHAGINI RADHIKA DD
10.KRISHNA CHITANYA DAS
11 LAJJA LEELA DD

ALL THE ABOVE ARE DISCIPLES OF HH JAYAPATAKA SWAMI MAHARAJ

YS
VAIKUNTAPATHY DAS
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Letter COM:2497930 (11 lines)
From:      Internet: Francisco Rocco <vatsalya108@hotmail.com>
Date:      22-Jul-99 21:16
To:        Internet News [49564]
Subject:   Vote

All glories to Srila Prabhupada.  My name is Vatsalya Rasa Das. Disciple of
Hridayananda das Goswami.  I live in Santa Barbara, CA.  Ajamila prabhu gave
me this address regarding a ISKCON/Ritvic vote.   I cast my vote for ISKCON.

Your servant,

Vatsalya
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Letter COM:2497962 (31 lines)
From:      Premanjana (das) LOK (TP Den Haag - NL)
Date:      22-Jul-99 21:40
To:        Internet News [49565]
Subject:   "VOTE"

Spiritual name   : Premanjana das (LOK)
Nearest temple  : Holland, Den Haag, Van Zeggelenlaan
Spiritual status : Brahmana-initiation
                                                President
                                                Chairman Benelux council

I hereby would like to state that I reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.


Spiritual name   : Subhadra d.d. (LOK)
Nearest temple  : Holland, Den Haag, Van Zeggelenlaan
Spiritual status : Brahmana-initiation
                                                Secretary Benelux council

I hereby would like to state that I reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.


Spiritual name   : Sugriva das
Nearest temple  : Holland, Den Haag, Van Zeggelenlaan
Spiritual status : First initiation

I hereby would like to state that I reject the ritvikism presented in the
CHAKRA debate.


Your servants,
Premanjana das
Subhadra d.d.
Sugriva das
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Letter COM:2500545 (2 lines)
From:      Jyotirmaya (das) HKS (Ljubljana - SLO)
Date:      23-Jul-99 19:10
To:        Internet News [49619]
Subject:   SUBJECT:VOTE

Jyotirmaya das,Ljubljana temple Slovenia,first initiation by Harikesa
Maharaja,`95,reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate!!!
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Letter COM:2500715 (4 lines)
From:      Dharmagup (das) HKS (Split - HR)
Date:      23-Jul-99 21:02
To:        Internet News [49620]
Subject:   vote

My name is Dharmagup das from Split center.
This is my vote that I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

Your servant Dharmagup das
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Letter COM:2501124 (18 lines)
From:      Nikunja-vasini (dd) PDA (Eugene, OR - USA)
Date:      24-Jul-99 03:37
To:        Internet News [49621]
Subject:   VOTE

Please accept our humble obeisences.
All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
ISKCON guru vrnda ki Jai!

Nikunjavasini dd
Portland Temple
first initiation
I whole heartedly reject the ritvik speculation.

Arlen Anderson
Portland Temple
friend of Krsna
I reject the ritvik philosophy.

Lynne Murray
Portland Temple
aspiring for Bhaktimarga Swami
I reject the ritvik "philosophy".
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Letter COM:2501154 (9 lines)
From:      Bhagadatta (das) SS (Sofia - BG)
Date:      24-Jul-99 04:00
To:        Internet News [49622]
Subject:   VOTE

Bhagadatta dasa
Sofia temple
second initiated since 7years

I completely reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.

It has no grounds in sastra whatsoever. My spiritual master, considers it as
waste of time to even discuss with the ritviks. The earlier this speculation
is cut down the better for humanity at large.
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Letter COM:2501365 (5 lines)
From:      Narayani (dd) ACBSP (Vrindavan - IN)
Date:      24-Jul-99 07:07
To:        Internet News [49623]
Subject:   Ritvik vote

Dear prabhu,
I am against the ritvik philosophy presented on Chakra. My name is Narayani
Dasi, ISKCON Vrndaban, Srila Prabhupada's disciple.
Your servant,
Narayani Dasi
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Letter COM:2501414 (4 lines)
From:      Mahendra (das) SS (Sofia - BG)
Date:      24-Jul-99 07:46
To:        Internet News [49624]
Subject:   vote

Pamho. AgtSP.
My name in Mahendra das. I serve as temple president in Sofia since 5 years.
I completely reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate.
ys
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Letter COM:2501434 (5 lines)
From:      Vijaya Gouranga (das) BBPG (Budapest - H)
Date:      24-Jul-99 08:02
To:        Internet News [49625]
Subject:   vote

I reject the ritvikism presented in the CHAKRA debate and vote FOR Ajamila
das.
spritual name: Vijaya Gouranga das
temple: Hungary, Budapest Temple
spiritual status: brahmana
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Letter COM:2501481 (10 lines)
From:      Gaura-Narayana (das) SRS (Mayapur Gurukula, SRPV - IN)
Date:      24-Jul-99 08:41
To:        Internet News [49626]
Subject:   vote

My name is Gaura-Narayana dasa and I'm 22 years old. I'm a disciple of
Sivarama Swami and I've been living in Mayapur for over seven years. I am
currently serving as a teacher in the gurukula as well as a student.

I am voting for Iskcon or in other words for the proper siddhanta. The
rtviks have definatly lost the debate. They should not have started a
philosiphical debate with only a belief as their stance.

Your servant,
Gaura-Narayana dasa
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Letter COM:2501577 (6 lines)
From:      Turvasu (das) HKS (Vienna - A)
Date:      24-Jul-99 09:23
To:        Internet News [49627]
Subject:   VOTE

Name: Turvasu dasa
Name: Sivakroda dd

ISM: HKS

and we recect the ritvik philosophy!
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