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Both Are All Right
By Geeta Gamya Radhika Devi Dasi (JPS)
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. All glories to Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON.
All glories to you, for trying to follow Srila Prabhupada. A lot more details are required from your side to really assess your case and make any suggestions. Details of your family, your current status of engagement (attending school or college), which country, town, and yatra you belong to, your current guides in devotional service (that is the devotees with whom you are associating now), your level of spiritual commitments (level of sadhana, like number of rounds, regulative principles, initiated or aspiring initiation if so, from whom)— all these details and much more are required to give you any valuable advice. However, with the little bit of information you have provided, I would like to make a comment that may be useful. If you think I can be of some further help, please write to me with all the above details, and we can discuss this further.
and Realism: A Balance
I found Subhadra-mayi’s article refreshingly honest. A similar thing happened in my own marriage and others that I know of. It seems this sort of thing often happens when the idealism of youth comes in contact with the very attractive ideals of the Vedic culture, including husbands that are so truly exemplary and loving, that a woman simply needs to surrender to one wholly, and all her spiritual, emotional and physical necessities are realized. The stark truth and what the lesson of experience should teach us, is that this seldom happens.
College Just a Material Trapping?
Dear CHAKRA and friends,
All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Please accept my humble obeisances, and forgive my offenses.
I couldn't agree more with Mother Subhadra-mayi...she is absolutely correct. I beg all of the devotees to please take this advice from someone who waited until age 31 to start college. I am a senior, and with my responsibilities of job, wife, child, household, aging mother, etc., I am having a very difficult time continuing in school. All my classmates are in their early twenties, none have jobs, they all have so much time to study, relax, enjoy, etc. (I could use this time for spiritual advancement.)
and the Vedic Woman
Judging from the angry, unprintable letters I have been receiving, it seems there is a misunderstanding about the education of women in Vedic times. Srila Prabhupada, people say, is teaching a conception of the Vedic society where women remain ignorant. It makes me wonder how many people actually read Srila Prabhupada’s books. It is true that Vedic women did not get degrees in business administration or sociology, but still, they were more educated than the most learned scholars in universities today.
What about Queen Kunti? Was she uneducated? People are still studying and poring over her words 5,000 years after they were spoken. And it is all in Srila Prabhupada’s books.
Blame Srila Prabhupada
I'm sorry that Ms. Mishra feels that Prabhupada gave wrong instructions about women. Actually, since I had my letter posted on CHAKRA, I have received many emails of differing opinions, but one thing that has been consistent through most of them is that the ideals of women described by Prabhupada are just that: ideals. And ideals in Vedic Society at that. We are by no means anywhere close to being a Vedic society. This is Kali yuga, after all.
And just because we have not been successful in becoming the Vedic society Prabhupada envisioned does not fault him. Maybe we should be looking at why it is we are not able to follow his simple instructions.
a Degree and Serve Krsna
I just read your post on Chakra. I can say that I deeply regret not finishing school to join the temple because life can give you things that you may never expect. I lived in the temple for nine years before I married, and I never expected that my marriage would be what it was, with the result that I packed up and left being six weeks pregnant.
And now? I'm a single mum without a degree, on welfare. I started going to school again last year, but my baby ended up in the hospital over and over again because every little cold he got from other children turned really bad. Now he can soon go to school, and hopefully, my school will work out this time and we will get out of this situation, a situation that wouldn't have been like this if I had a degree.
A Challenging Frontier
Dandavat. Jaya Srila Prabhupada!
I would like to thank Madhusudani Mataji for her reply to Jagannidhi Prabhu's posting.
Devotees need qualifications — Gurus need to be qualified, and disciples too. Similarly, doctors, lawyers, engineers, and so many people whom I'm sure devotees do consult need qualifications to be able to do their jobs responsibly.
Please accept my humble obeisances.
When reading these interesting viewpoints on obtaining university level education, the thought that ran through my mind was "Well, what’s your major?"
Everyone knows someone who went to some college somewhere and got a degree in something that’s absolutely useless. It happens. Some people, I think, plan it that way, so they can go back to school again for something else.
College for Los Angeles
Srila Prabhupada said that a varnasrama college has to be established immediately, in all our centers,* and specifically in a place where we can grow our own food.** He said that this would make the whole world Krsna conscious*** and that if this was done in America, then the whole world would follow.
Here in New Dvaraka [ISKCON of Los Angeles] some devotees want to establish such a college in America. If you are interested in joining us or helping out in any way please contact me.
I have heard and read Srila Prabhupada's statements about karmi education (mainstream society's universities and colleges), both in terms of devotees generally receiving education from these institutions and also in terms of females being highly educated.
I accept that in Vedic culture, there is no need for women to have a high education because their main roles are as wife, mother, and servant of Krsna. But....
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
I am writing a paper for distribution to my local devotee community on the effects of television viewing on children, especially those under five years. I have collected a large amount of scientific research about the effects of television on children's intellectual and social development, but I would also like to include some perspectives on how it impacts spiritual development.
You could help by letting me know, confidentially, what you think about this issue:
Academy Students Honor Navadvipa Dhama
"How to have our students’ minds absorbed in the appearance of the Lord in His form as Caitanya Mahaprabhu?" Campakalata devi dasi, gurukula school teacher and gurukula graduate, pondered. Gaura purnima, the anniversary of the appearance of Lord Caitanya Mahaprabhu, was approaching in six weeks. "A major artistic project that we can work on bit by bit for many weeks will certainly help them meditate on the Lord."
When Sitarani devi dasi, age 12, suggested dioramas, Campakalata decided to make nine of them—one for each of the islands that form the greater area of Lord Caitanya’s birthplace. There are wonderful stories of saints and the Lord that took place on each of these islands of Navadvipa. Students and teachers picked one main story per island and fashioned a diorama on a base shaped like lotus petals and a center, as Navadvipa’s shape resembles that of a lotus.
School Needs Help
Please accept my most humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
The devotees in Ghana are running a primary school. It is a nice way of preaching. Only problem is that they have 80 children from very poor families so they would need some sponsors. Each child's education costs only U.S.$85.50 for one year. I am sure there are some devotees who could help. I am going to Ghana to preach, so I just came to know about this.
Your humble servant,
May 1, 2002– Although it is accepted that the guru is beyond error, and I do not want to find any errors, I wish to elaborate slightly on HH Kavicandra Swami's article "Report from Our School in Ghana."
Actually, the real founder of the school is HH Mahavishnu Swami who first came to Ghana, had the vision for the school, and personally worked on the constitution and legal matters. Also HH Bhakti Tirtha Swami, whose desire it had been to have such a school for many years, also HH Kavicandra Swami himself, who has personally been raising funds to assist the school.
from Our School in Ghana
This is from Mother Ila.mvs, the founder and principle of the school, Lord Krsna's Academy.
School has just closed for the second term and will be re-opening on the 14th of May. The schoolchildren are very special. I have seen this on many occasions. I keep a few storybooks in my class so the children can read in any spare time, and the only book that all of them always wants to read is The Butter Thief. None of the karmi books interest them much, even though I did not say or do anything to influence them in their choice.
ISKCON School of Hillsborough, North Carolina, Update
We're developing our school website at www.radharani.com. Please visit.
Several of our high school students are chanting sixteen rounds and aspiring for initiation. Two of our graduates are presently in Italy in an exchange program with their college, Boston University. Another graduate got straight A's and 20 semester hours of credit in college last semester. Several more ISKCON School graduates got all A's last semester in various colleges. A recent graduate finds college English work easy. Her mother writes, "She is getting nothing but praise from her English teacher for ‘expository writing.’ I know that is all thanks to you. She is not learning anything new in that class. Also in our Spanish class we seem to be surrounded by kids who cannot understand the most simple, basic ideas like definite and indefinite articles, possessive pronouns etc... even in English!"
Hare Krishna School in Africa
After months of struggle to put up a school building, get adequate funding, get additional members for the teaching staff, the school Lord Krishna's Academy, finally opened on 11 September 2001, with 15 children. Now, four weeks has increased to 63. Many villagers who previously 'feared' the Hare Krishna's, not knowing what their strange religion was all about, can now see that they are "good people" and daily new children appear for enrolment.
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