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by Ajamila dasa
Adri Dharan Prabhus conclusion is false and his concocted N.C.I.P. (No change in the ISKCON paradigm) directive portrays cognitive distortion of a kind never seen before.
The essence of Adris N.C.I.P. gimmick is the assumption that as per Prabhupadas last will and testament nothing at all should change in ISKCON. Isnt this rather silly? This wild speculation covered with an array of phony disguises is an insult to a devotees intelligence. Here is Adris assertion:
This is absurd beyond belief. While living in a world of change how can we not change anything? It is impossible! This is a very childish assumption. And if you apply the same absurd principle to implementing a posthumous initiation system you come up with all the ideas I described in my Introduction. Whichever way you look at ritvikism it simply doesnt fall in line with guru, sadhu, and sastra and therefore should be rejected as the GBC have done unanimously.
Common sense tells us that there are certain things that the GBC must change and others that can never change. For example, the GBC must change their clothes, geographical responsibilities when required, resolutions when it is necessary, and so on. This is common sense; some things MUST change. But the GBC can never change major ISKCON principles like initiates must chant a minimum of 16 rounds daily, Deity worship must always be clean and regular, etc.
The big question at hand here is can a guru like Srila Prabhupada initiate posthumously? According to guru, sadhu, and sastra the answer is never, as clearly outlined in my Introduction. Contrary to Adris N.C.I.P. speculation one thing that ALWAYS changes in Vaisnavism is that upon the departure of a guru he always stops giving diksa initiation since it requires physical presence. There has never been any exception to this. A guru can never continue giving diksa posthumously. This point has also been proved irrefutably in my Introduction. No one can overrule guru, sadhu, and sastra. That is the end of the story. Baaas.
The following Ritviks N.C.I.P. speculation is downright nonsense:
Below we present evidence that directly contradicts Adris speculations. This evidence was either overlooked or purposely omitted by him. Contrary to Adris sinister denigration this evidence is not private or irrelevant correspondence but rather a clear PUBLIC instruction by Srila Prabhupada to his disciples to act as acaryas in his future ISKCON institution:
There are many, many other quotes where Srila Prabhupada expresses his desire that his disciples initiate after his departure, for example:
In this letter Srila Prabhupada gave personal direction and additionally instructed his growing institution as he did in 90%-plus of his letters. See Srila Prabhupada Siksamrita. As the compiler of this work and having gone through 7,500-plus of Srila Prabhupadas letters I know that it is a fact that 90%-plus of Srila Prabhupada letters nurtured the growth of his ISKCON institution. Adri tries to dismiss as irrelevant letters that contain evidence unsuited to his contraband agenda. Here is another example of how Adri attempts to minimise more clear evidence:
The transcript IS clear. The GBC used the official Bhaktivedanta Archives transcript. The attempt to discredit rather than disprove this evidence verifies the Ritviks weaknesses and mendacious intentions. Here is the official Bhaktivedanta Archives transcription which after being tested was satisfactorily summarised: "Standard forensic procedures thus far have revealed that there is no editing or tampering of the tapes." This is the official Bhaktivedanta Archives statement (caps for emphasis), and any contrary statement by Adri or any other Ritvik is false.
Here is the officially approved transcription just in from the Archives:
"Disciple of my disciple. Thats it." It cant be much clearer than that, but not for Adri and the Ritviks who are determined by hook or by crook to force their concocted ritvikism on ISKCON.
Here is the twist Adri puts on the above conversation to denigrate it as GBC evidence:
What an insulting twist. Lets untwist what Adri has done here. Adri is basically saying that the temporary ritvik representatives that were to be appointed five weeks later on 9 July were given the same after departure mandate as the regular gurus were given on 28 May but of course with an additional posthumous spin. After spinning the evidence in the way he wants he claims it confirms his so-called directive! This is just so silly and so obvious. Adri is trying to twist and juggle things around to form his pre-determined ritvik concoction. Id generously give him four out of ten for word jugglery and zero out of ten for having any truth.
Adri Dharan further stated:
It is unanimously clear with the GBC since Srila Prabhupada was asked "The people who they give diksa to, whose disciple are they?" and Srila Prabhupada replied, "Theyre his disciple." and "He becomes disciple of my disciple. Thats it." This is clear.
It is again unanimously clear with the GBC because Srila Prabhupadas answer to "Then our next question concerns initiations in the future, particularly at that time when youre no longer with us." is that the person receiving initiation becomes "grand disciple" and the person initiating is a regular guru. This is clear.
Again it is unanimously clear to the GBC that Srila Prabhupada reconfirmed his standing order for all his disciples to initiate after his departure. In the above conversation he says "he becomes regular guru", responding to the position real the initiating ritvik after his departure. This was the REAL final order. It was a reconfirmation of the order he had been giving his disciples all along.
All this is perfectly clear to all the GBC but only unclear to the Ritviks. Instead of disproving the evidence at hand Adri is deploying a ruthless tactic of divide and rule. Adri is trying hard to create an impression that the GBC are confused and in disagreement about ritvikism, but the fact is that again this year in Mayapura the GBC unanimously rejected ritvikism as a dangerous and devious concoction. Contrary to the opinion of the Ritviks, the GBC on this issue of ritvikism are completely united. Being unable to sway the GBC the Ritviks are now attempting to discredit contrary evidence with cheap ploys to sway and intimidate emotionally unstable and philosophically unsound devotees.
The real insult that Adri has inadvertently levied at Srila Prabhupada is this:
In addition to his spelling mistake, jana instead of jna, Adri puts forward as his so-called third level of proof that Srila Prabhupadas tri-kala-jna sensibilities are a reason for Srila Prabhupada to defy guru, sadhu, and sastra and break the law of disciplic succession. Lord Krishna was more than tri-kala-jna but still He did not break the law of disciplic succession in order to teach everyone by example. Srila Prabhupada was not a law breaker as Adri wants us to believe but rather everything he did was strictly in accordance with guru, sadhu, and sastra. This must not and cannot change under the name of a silly one-sided no change N.C.I.P. concoction.
Ajamila Dasa Adhikari
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