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|Ajamila's Comment on
Adridharana's Answer to Question No. 1
Dear Adri Dharan Prabhu,
Please accept my most humble obeisances at your feet. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Following the correct procedure in discussing the system of initiation in ISKCON is an inseparable part of that system. Your concern about me discussing your personal misbehaviour is unwarranted since I address only your illegitimate abandonment of the authorised correct procedure which is directly connected to the debate.
Did Srila Prabhupada or did he not set up a proper procedure for debating GBC resolutions? And have you or have you not disregarded that procedure?
It is simply absurd to separate the proper authorised procedure from the current debate. Are you trying to make irrelevant a point which is directly relevant because you know that I have irrefutable proof that you are guilty of seriously violating the authorised appeal procedure given by Srila Prabhupada?
Following the proper procedure for appealing a GBC decision is very much a major concern of the GBC on the same subject. If you don't believe me, ask them? If not, withdraw your point.
This is but your attempt to avoid my legitimate question about the proper appeal procedure which is an inseparable part of the debate.
You would do better to prove your points rather than make them up.
My next question addressing your above point will defeat you completely. Before I do that, I want all the assembled internet devotees to know that you have rejected Srila Prabhupada's instruction to follow the proper procedure for appealing GBC decisions.
I have a store-house of bona fide evidence from Srila Prabhupada whereas you have only concocted wranglings which you call evidence. This has already been demonstrated and will be clearly illustrated again.
First produce some 'real' evidence. When you present me with a 'faked final order' and wild concoctions I bin them for you, and then you say I'm evading your evidence. First prove your so-called evidence is 'real' evidence. The onus is on you to do that. Come up with something REAL. So far you have only produced concoction after concoction after concoction after concoction.
"You again state:
You are so desperate to find a fault and so you 'create one' where there isn't one. This point that you have alluded to proves my point. The reason ritvik is unimportant in sastra is because it is not a major 'principle' of Vedic philosophy, it is merely a circumstantial detail. That is what I have said and that is what the GBC have said and so there is no contradiction, except in your 'creative' mind.
I said Srila Prabhupada used the word ('ritvik-acarya) circumstantially, this is a fact you cannot deny. I also said that Srila Prabhupada's usage was not to establish a ritvik priest as a major principle of Vedic culture, and that is a fact. I have always said that and so have the GBC. So you have only succeeded in creating another fabrication and confirming what I and the GBC have said all along. Thank you.
Thank you for answering my questions.
Let me remind you of my questions:
You blatantly say 'no' but everyone knows that you have done so in the past and that you continue to do so now. I can 'prove' this extensively. Would you like me to post some evidence to remind you?
How can you say no when you play a leading role in IRG who constantly blaspheme the GBC, ISKCON, and all ISKCON gurus? You are not being honest. Would you like me to also post this evidence as a reminder?
Again you say no but the whole of ISKCON knows what you are currently up to in Calcutta. After seeing your untruthful answers to my above rhetorical questions how can anyone seriously respect your 'philosophical' judgement?
I'm not here to enforce the GBC authority upon you, I'm here to remind you about the authority of sastra which you whimsically and dangerously disregard.
First of all prove you have 'real' evidence for ritvikism. Thus far you have only proved that ritvikism is made up of 100-plus concoctions, the grossest type of philosophical errors you could ever imagine. This is your only success.
Atmavan manyate jagat, you are projecting on others the very trick you so often deploy when all your faked evidence falls apart under scrutiny. Is this the only way you can protect all your feeble straw man arguments?
Ys, Ajamila Dasa Adhikari
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