Go to the Ritvik Page
|Question No. 2
by Ajamila dasa
Dear Adri Dharan Prabhu,
Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.
Im sure youll agree that sastra says the conclusive rule when speaking on major principles of Vedic philosophy is that sadhus, gurus, and even founder acaryas must always strictly adhere to sastra.
This is profoundly verified as follows in Caitanya-caritamrita Madhya 20.352 purport:
Sastra is the centre for all. This is clear, and I presume you agree. Therefore, until you verify that your posthumous ritvikism is sastra centred it must be rejected as nonsense. The most alarming element of your ritvikism is that it puts both place marker you and our beloved Srila Prabhupada in the 'bogus position of rejecting sastra as the centre of all. Your ritvikism is not supported by even an iota of evidence from sastra or Srila Prabhupada.
Strictly adhering to guru, sadhu, and sastra simply means that gurus and sadhus must always refer to sastra when applying the principles of Krishna consciousness. Gurus and sadhus need not refer to the principles of sastra when adjusting certain time, place, and circumstance details.
Gurus and sadhus MUST always refer to the principles of sastra when adjusting time, place, and circumstance 'details'. If an adjustment flouts a principle, it is apasiddhantika or bogus. All adjustments of details must be in accordance with sastra principles.
Not even a Founder Acarya like Srila Prabhupada, can change any principles of sastra. Principles of sastra always remain unchangeable. For instance a guru cannot instruct an initiated disciple dont chant any rounds because that is against a major principle of sastra. A guru or sadhu cannot say that Krishna is not the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and so on.
What makes ritvikism a dangerous concoction of a is that the directive therein blindly rebels against the fact that principles of sastra can never be changed. You argue that Srila Prabhupada was so powerful as a guru, sadhu, and Founder Acarya that he could change a major principle of Vedic philosophy that was firmly upheld even by Lord Krishna Himself! You imply that Srila Prabhupada has become greater than God!
Here is irrevocable proof that one must take diksa from a living spiritual master:
According to your ritvikism Srila Prabhupada contradicted himself here when he said,
Here is the critical question: Is the acceptance of a living diksa-guru an unchangeable major principle of Krishna consciousness? The answer is absolutely yes. The proof is the unbroken Vaisnava tradition given in sastra which was followed unswervingly not only by every single acarya in our line but also by Lord Caitanya and Lord Krishna. Sastra considers Vaisnava tradition as valid evidence and therefore this proof is irrefutable.
If an interpretation opposes the principles of scripture it can never be accepted, as verified by our sastra Caitanya-caritamrita Adi. 2.73:
The sastra principle that an interpretation is never accepted as evidence if it opposes the principles of scripture applies to all Srila Prabhupadas interpretations too. Nowhere in all Srila Prabhupadas vani will you find even a hint of an instance where he opposes the principles of sastra. But now after all these years you dig up a hidden meaning from the 9 July letter implying that Srila Prabhupada opposed the principles of sastra. This wild inaccurate assertion is not only absurd but a great insult to Srila Prabhupada. You have wrongly concocted that Srila Prabhupada wanted to defy sastra by instigating a posthumous ritvik system that breaks the law of disciplic succession!
Here is more incontestable proof that ritvikism is completely wrong. His Divine Grace again clearly confirms in the following quote that he wanted the disciplic succession to continue after him and not stop with him. Srila Prabhupada clearly says here that he is eleventh in our line of disciplic succession from Lord Caitanya and that his disciples would be twelfth:
When Srila Prabhupada says "I am eleventh, you are the twelfth" it is very clear that he wanted his disciples to continue the disciplic succession, not discontinue it. If Srila Prabhupada actually wanted to stop the parampara with him he would have said something like I am eleventh, bas. No more after me. But he clearly couldnt and didnt. Srila Prabhupada wanted his disciples to be the twelfth generation of diksa-gurus, just like him, as per the unbroken Vaisnava tradition. In the above quote Srila Prabhupada sets the perfect example as the guru and sadhu and Founder Acarya of ISKCON by strictly adhering to a major principle of sastra.
Please prove directly and unequivocally without any evasion tactic whatsoever that your proposed system of ritvikism, a system of posthumous initiation that you declare Srila Prabhupada supposedly wanted after his departure, does not put Srila Prabhupada in a bogus position of contravening guru, sadhu, and sastra by breaking the law of disciplic succession?
Ajamila Dasa Adhikari
Go to the Ritvik Page
|You are here|
|Book editing (changes)|
|Child Abuse Page|
|Letters from readers|
|SP disciple database|
© Copyright November, 2003 by oldchakra.com. All rights reserved.
about this website or to report an
error, write to firstname.lastname@example.org