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Mediation Fails between ITV 
and Brahmananda/Gargamuni

by Nrsimhananda dasa

I am sorry to report that the mediation attempted to resolve the piracy issues between ITV and Brahmananda/Gargamuni have failed. After two months of emails between the mediator, Braja Bihari, who was in physical contact with the two brothers, and myself, I finally invested in an hour-and-a-half phone call from ITV in Los Angeles to Vrndaban to try to find an agreement.


ISKCON’s 15th Annual 
Vraja Mandala Parikrama, 
Part 13

by Ekanath dasa

Day 26. Lohavan to Dauji. Dauji Mandir. There is a deity of Lord Balarama here, which was installed by Vajranabha, the great grandson of Krsna. It is the largest deity in Vraj. Facing the deity and hidden from view is the deity of Balarama’s wife, Revati. Dauji, another name for Lord Balarama, means, "Older Brother."


Padayatra India Needs Equipment
by Ekanath dasa

Recently, Padayatra India has received, as a donation, a digital film projector. However, in order to use it, and play films on it, they need either a digital video player or camcorder (handy cam).


North American 
Communications Course
from Anuttama Dasa

Alachua: January 11-14, 2002
Chicago: January 18-10, 2002

This 3½-day course will provide a hands-on training program that stresses interactive learning. That is, we will learn to do communications, so that you can apply the practical skills you learn in your area. 


Last Call for GBC Proposals
from Radha Krishna (das) RNS (GBC Secretary)

The GBC meetings for the year 2002 will begin on 1st March 2002.

Here is the Standard Format for GBC Proposals....Only if we receive the Proposals (through a GBC member) latest by the 1st of Dec 2001 will we be able to send the agenda to the GBC body for discussion by the 15th of Dec 2001. 


The Fall of the Jiva: Question
from Mick

Now stop here for a moment. I have a problem with this sort of logic: "Srila Prabhupada preached fall theory and anyone who is not accepting fall theory is not following Srila Prabhupada. And wherever Srila Prabhupada preached no-fall theory, we can somehow assume that really fall-vaada is his actual position."


The Fall of the Jiva: Answer
by Umapati Swami

Dear Mick,

Thanks for your question about the fall of the jiva. It is true that there are statements supporting both fall and no-fall in Srila Prabhupada’s books, so you have asked for an answer by a learned devotee. I hardly fit the category, but I will refer to what Srila Prabhupada said when the question was put to him directly.


Devotees in Puri Still in Jail
by Bhakta dasa

Many of our readers may remember back to August 2000, when Bhakta dasa, Mayapur Chandra dasa, and Mandali Bhadra dasa were arrested in Jagannatha Puri on charges that they had gang-raped six year old Tulasi devi, daughter of Ms. Maria Schmidova, a Slovakian national, residing in Vienna.

In March 2001, Bhakta dasa’s family brought formal charges against Maria in Austria. In a quick settlement, Maria confessed before the Honorable High Court in Austria that the whole case was fabricated from the beginning.... Sadly, the Orissa court chose to totally ignore the Austrian court documents, and the case has continued as though it were genuine.


The Glorious Mission
by Yugala Kishor dasa

Time magazine printed an edition (Oct 29, 2001) with the Holy Name of Krishna. This is an important step in the right direction for it showed that another name of God is, indeed, Krishna.... Page 11 of that issue had a picture of a Sikh-turbaned acolyte, holding an American flag. The text stated: "May Allah, Krishna, or God bless America."


Maithily Devi Dasi Needs Help
by Sridhar Swami

[reprinted from Free Forum]

I personally know her as a great Vaisnavi, surely on her way Back to Godhead at the end of this life, by Srila Prabhupada’s mercy. His Divine Grace also knew her personally and appreciated her service. Now, like a number of Baby Boomers, she is feeling the affects of the "Silent Killer" Hepatitis C virus which she has had in her blood for over 30 years. Maithily never married and as such is not properly protected.


Correction for "Mantra Meditation Kit" Ad 
by Syamasundara das

This is our humble request to correct an error in our ad on Chakra, "Mantra Meditation Kit." The price appears as $2.00, but it should be be $5.00.

Your humble servant,
Syamasundara das
[The article is complete on this page.]


Mantra Meditation Kit 
Based on Srila Prabhupada’s Teachings

by Syamasundara das

In our endeavor, we came out with the novel idea of distributing the Holy Name to one and all through our new product, called Mantra Meditation Kit. This pack contains four items:
1. Japamala, 2. Bead Bag, 3. Cassette (Prabhupada chanting japa and Hare Krsna with purport), 4. Handbook, all in one pack.


ISKCON’s 15th Annual Vraja Mandala Parikrama, 
Part 12

by Ekanath dasa

Day 24. Bhandirvan to Manasarovar. Bilvavan (Srivan). This is also one of the 12 forests of Vraja. Bilva is another name for the Bela tree or Bela fruit. Laxmi devi resides in this forest and another one of Her names is Sri. This is the reason this forest is called Srivana. Laxmi devi wanted to be able to associate with Krsna in the conjugal mood. For this end, She came here and performed austerities. Krsna and Balarama would come to this forest, eat bela fruit, and have picnics with their friends.


Diary of a Traveling Preacher, 
Volume 4, Chapter 4
by Indradyumna Swami

Finally the crow opened its eyes, squawked, and flew into the air. There was a loud roar of appreciation from the small crowd as they called out, "Jai Radhe! Jai Radhe!" and continued on their way. The compassion shown for such a lowly creature astonished me and confirmed my thoughts that morning on parikrama: here in Vrindavan all creatures are accepted as eternal servants of God. Continuing on my way, I remembered a classic verse from Bhagavad-gita.


ISKCON’s 15th Annual 
Vraja Mandala Parikrama,
Part 11

by Ekanath dasa

Day 22. Shergarh to Cirghat. Rama ghat. One night Lord Balarama became very blissful after drinking some Varuni beverage. He then asked the Yamuna to come nearer. The Yamuna refused, thinking He was intoxicated. Balarama then became very angry and began to scrape the earth with His plow to bring the river closer to Him. Yamuna devi, being afraid, then came and surrendered to Lord Balarama and admitted her fault.


Web Site for 
Tribhuvannatha Prabhu

by Nila

I built a website for Tribhuvannatha. It’s designed so people can post stories about him and leave thoughts and prayers, etc. for him.


ISKCON’s 15th Annual 
Vraja Mandala Parikrama,
Part 10

by Ekanath dasa

Day 20. Kokilavan to Shesashayi. Charan Pahari. There are footprints of Krsna and His animals in the rocks here. Once when Krsna and the cowherd boys climbed the hill to see the cows grazing, Krsna stood under a tree in His threefold bending form playing a flute. When people heard the sound of His flute they gathered on top of this hill to listen. The mountain melted at the sound of His flute and the footprints of Sri Krsna and those around Him are imprinted on the rocks here.


On Racism
by Isvara das

Some time ago I wrote an article regarding racial prejudice in ISKCON, which was a comment on an earlier article by another devotee, Krishna Avatar Dasa. In my article, I expressed certain racial derogatory statements often made by devotees. However in that article I had written "majority of white-bodied devotees have been unable to shed their racial prejudice upon join ISKCON." Actually I had mistakenly used the word "majority," instead of which I should have used the word "some, many, or few." 


Srila Prabhupada's Radio 
by Pragosh das

I am presenting to you an Internet Radio where you can hear Srila Prabhupada 24 hours a day. Requirements: PC (IBM technology), Internet Explorer (version 5+), a fast CPU (450 Mhz+), Windows Media Player, and a fast connection. 


Long-Lost Friend
by Barbara Smith

I have been looking for a friend who is a devotee, who I have lost contact with. She was a really lovely person and always a source of inspiration and also good company. Over the years I have moved many times, as I imagine she has. The last I heard she was living in a place called Collier Row near London, UK, and about to marry a devotee from her temple. 


Deities at Baroda, India, On 
Govardhana Puja, 2001

Photos Inside


Prahlad Das Missing
by Srinjaya Dasa

[from Free Forum]

Prahlad Das, a Mauritian national, a.k.a. Mr Bissoonauth, disciple of H.H Navayogendra Swami, had left Mauritius for India for more than five years and had been staying in Uttampur temple. He has not been in communication with his parents for more than four years.... 


ISKCON's 15th Annual Vraja Mandala Parikrama,
Part 9

by Ekanath dasa

Day 17. Varsana to Nandagaon. Pili Pokhar. Mother Yasoda loved Radharani and wanted Her to marry Krsna. One time, when Radharani came to Nandagram, Mother Yasoda put some tumeric pulp on Her hands, which was the custom for making a marriage agreement finalized. When Radharani saw Her yellow hands, She became embarrassed and washed Her hands in the water of this pond. The water of this kund became yellowish. Pili Pokhar means yellow pond.


Monkey Helps Police Recover Deity

Reprinted from: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow.asp?art_id=109944528 

BHUBANESWAR: A monkey, reportedly, played a key role in recovering the astadhatu idol of Madan Mohan, one of the two idols stolen from the Jagannath temple in Puri, Monday morning. Police sources said it was a monkey that led the search party to the well in which the idol was found. "The monkey behaved differently. It led the team to the well where the idol was found," sources said.


Racism?
by Kavicandra Swami

There was some comment that everyone in ISKCON is a "racist." I hesitate to comment for fear of an inundation of arguments for the sake of arguments, but anyway I am daring to comment. I think the following quotes express Srila Prabhupada’s true mood:

Prabhupada: Krsna is black and we worship Him. (laughter) You have seen our Deity? Yes. Krsna is from your community. (Prabhupada laughs) There is no question of black and white. Krsna consciousness is above the skin — the soul which is there....


Thank You, Kavicandra Swami
by Maharani dasi

Thanks, Kavicandra Swami for your wonderful article. Krsna Consciousness is never racist, those who are Krsna Conscious are never racist, and those who are racist are not Krsna Conscious.

Your Servant,
Maharani dasi
[The article is complete on this page.]


Vaisnava Primer Online

Learn, Refresh, Enjoy Krishna Consciousness!!!
Visit http://vedalearn.com 

This project has been launched with the blessings of the New Govardhana (Australia) authorities.
[The article is complete on this page.]


ISKCON’s 15th Annual Vraja Mandala Parikrama, 
Part 8

by Ekanath dasa

Vyomasura Gupha. Vyomasura put the cowherd boys in this gupha (cave) after he stole them. Krsna fought with the demon here. During the fight, Krsna fell from the sky and landed on His hands and feet. Imbedded in the rock, on top of the hill above the cave, are Krsna's footprints and handprints. Nearby a rock shows imprints of marigold flowers that fell off Krsna during the fight and another shows imprints of His Kaustabha necklace.

Balarama's footprint. The battle between Krsna and Vyomasaura was so intense that the earth began to shake. To steady the wobbling earth, Balarama pressed His foot into the rock. His footprint is imbedded in this rock.


Web Site for Cake Recipes

If you liked the Four Great Banana Cake Recipes and the Cake Recipes by Acyuta Radhika devi dasi, there’s plenty more at www.Eggless.Com 
[The article is complete on this page.]


ISKCON’s 15th Annual 
Vraja Mandala Parikrama, 
Part 7

by Ekanath dasa

For the past five years, the devotees on Vraja Mandala Parikrama have been accompanied by HG Parasurama prabhu and his padayatra devotees. They follow the parikrama path with a cart pulled by bullocks, carrying deties of Sri Sri Gaura Nitai. ... In the past 12 days these devotees have distributed more than 12,000 pieces of literature.


Jagannath Deity Stolen 
from Puri Temple

[ reprinted from http://headlines.sify.com/219news1.htmlJagannath ]

Madan Mohan, the ‘ashtadhatu’ (eight metals) idol of Lord Jagannath was stolen from Puri’s Jagannath temple on Sunday.


ISKCON’s 15th Annual Vraja 
Mandala Parikrama, 
Part 6

by Ekanath dasa

Day 11. Parikrama of Badrinath. Today we were joined by HH Mahavisnu Goswami and HG Deena Bandhu Prabhu. En route, we visited the Haridwar, Har Ki Puri, Hrishikesh and Laxman Jhula of Vraja Dhama. We had our Srimad Bhagavatam class on the foothills of Badrinath.


ISKCON’s 15th Annual 
Vraja Mandala Parikrama, 
Part 5

by Ekanath dasa

Day 9. Radhakund to Deeg. Our walk today took us out of Radhakund and on to Deeg, Rajasthan. We again visited Kusum Sarova, a large, beautiful kund on the parikrama path of Giriraja. Kusum means flower and Sarova means pond. Here gopis would come to pick flowers for Krsna.


The Passing Away of 
Krishna’s Children

by Bhranti devi dasi

IIt was this time last year that my family and I traveled to Vrndavana to place the ashes of one of my sons in the Yamuna river. We had a car accident while traveling out west last summer and my son, Keshava, sustained a head injury and departed the next day. He was 12 years old. He was strong and healthy and a brilliant student. He went to gurukula and used to receive an A in japa class.


Lord Ramachandra, 
the Perfect Leader

by Krishna Dharma
[Reprinted from www.ramayana.com]

Certainly the protection of our bodies and our property is important, but there is something still more important, something that is all too often neglected by today’s leaders, and that is the protection and preservation of our spiritual welfare. This is actual Rama-rajya. As Christ said, "What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world, but loses his soul?"


Memories of Tribhuvannatha, 
a Dear Godbrother

by Ranchor das

Tribhuvannatha always was full of surprises. His apparent independence was really a complete dependence on Krishna, and he served Prabhupada and Krishna with his every breath in a way only he knew or even dared. Even down to the last, he did it his way, taking us all by surprise and quietly slipping away, in Brazil on 16 October 2001, far from the crowds which so unsettled him.
[photo inside]


Food Relief Program in Orissa
by Radha Madhab Sahu

Bhaktivedanta Charities Inc. and ISKCON launch food relief program in Orissa.

The Bhaktivedanta Charities, a US based non-profit organization, and the International Society for Krishna Consciousness in Orissa have joined together to launch a monthly food relief program to distribute prasadam to the poor in the Indian state of Orissa. Every month 3,000 needy children are being fed through the project.
[photo inside]


Diary of a Traveling Preacher 
Volume 4, Chapter 3

by Indradyumna Swami

October 25 - November 4, 2001

The auspicious month of Kartika, which began on November 1, is attracting pilgrims from all over India to Vrindavan. Unfortunately, not many ISKCON devotees have come, obviously due to the threat of terrorism. The only advantage seems to be that Vrindavan is relatively quiet now, and in such a tranquil environment it is easier to fix one’s mind on hearing and chanting, the very purposes for which I have come here.


The Glorious Mission
by Yugala Kishor dasa

Time magazine printed an edition (Oct 29, 2001) with the Holy Name of Krishna. This is an important step in the right direction for it showed that another name of God is, indeed, Krishna. Millions of magazines were distributed in a single week by that giant firm. Finally, the American media is recognizing that the name of "Krishna" is a valid name of God. 


Tribhuvanatha Prabhu 
in Israel

by Vibhisana dasa

IHis original plan included one or two performances in Cairo. The government of Egypt does not tolerate the propagation of Krishna consciousness, but Tribhuvanatha tactfully arranged the programs in cooperation with the cultural department of the Indian embassy, to be promoted as an Indian cultural event.


Madhava Toshani Back to Krishna
by Amogha das and Mohini Rupa devi dasi
[reprinted from Free Forum]

My lovely devotee daughter Madhava Toshani, age 13, has passed away in Kuala Lumpur. We came here to see Dr. Santi Rupa arriving from Singapore, but our daughter became very weak and couldn't breathe just after we arrived. Dr. Santi Rupa had a look and said to go immediately to hospital.
[photos inside]


ISKCON’s 15th Annual Vraja Mandala Parikrama,  
Part 4

by Ekanath dasa

Day 7. Today we were joined by HH Bhakti Caitanya Maharaja for Parikrama of Govardhana Hill.

"Of all devotees, this Govardhana Hill is the best, O my friends! This hill supplies Krsna and Balarama, as well as Their calves, cows and cowherd friends, with all kinds of necessities, water for drinking, very soft grass, caves, fruits, flowers and vegetables. In this way the hill offers respect to the Lord. Being touched by the lotus feet of Krsna and Balarama, Govardhana Hill appears very jubilant." (Srimad Bhagavatam)


A Tribute to Tribhuvanatha Prabhu
by Bhakta Sanjay Dadlani

One of his many qualities that never failed to impress me was his utter humility. I truly admired him just for that, and I have been very enriched by reading the other articles on CHAKRA by fellow devotees that outlined just some of his many achievements.


Batteries Need a Charge?
by Janmastami Dasa

Come churn the nectar with us in Mayapur for the 2002 Mayapur Institute of Higher Education (MIHE) Courses.

The MIHE has arranged its schedule so that the devotees can enter the MIHE at the beginning of any week of the semester since new courses start each week. The schedule also allows MIHE students to fully participate in the Gaura Purnima Festival.


Not Ksama-Buddhi
by Bhaktine Shirley Goode

I’m a newcomer, and I really like to see the openness that the debate signifies. Never mind the pros and cons, who is right or wrong, just to have the openness that this debate implies, I was really appreciating that. I could be part of a society like that. And I was thinking of writing something to this effect, when I say that Radhavallabha dd practically took the words right out of my mouth.


ISKCON’s 15th Annual 
Vraja Mandala Parikrama
Part 3

by Lokanath Swami

Day 5. Madhuvan to Santanu Kund. After mangal arati and announcements, we packed our bags and headed towards Santanu kund. Our first stop on the way was Talavana.

"Dear Krsna, will you kindly note that just near this place there is a big forest of the name Talavana. This forest is full of palm trees, and all the trees are filled with fruits. Some are falling down, and some of them are very ripe even in the trees. It is a very nice place, but because of a great demon, Dhenukasaura, it is very difficult to go there." (Krsna Book)


My Visit to Krishna’s 
Village of Peace—
Indradyumna Swami’s 
Camp
at the Polish 
Woodstock Festival

by Krishna-kripa das

This past summer I attended the Polish Woodstock festival and Indradyumna Swami’s "Krishna’s Village of Peace." It was the best festival I had ever gone to, so I felt inspired to make a web page to share my experience with my family, friends, and the people in general.


Recipe for Spiritual Success
by Krsna Kanta devi dasi

Editors note: Krsna Kanta devi dasi, a disciple of Srila Prabhupada, recently passed away in her sleep in Vancouver, Canada. Her husband, Mahidhar Prabhu, passed along the following "recipe card," hand-written in Krsna Kanta's own writing. The curious thing about the card is that it has some stains on it, as if it had been used in the kitchen many times while making the preparation described below.


ISKCON’s 15th Annual 
Vraja Mandal Parikrama, 
Part 2

by Lokanath Swami

On day 3 of the Vraja Dhama Parikrama we circumnavigated the town of Mathura, beginning with a bath at Vishram Ghat. This was the place that Lord Caitanya first visited when He came to Vraja Mandal. He took bath and then went to the birthplace of Lord Krsna and took darshan of the deity there, Sri Keshavji. His chanting and dancing attracted all the residents of Mathura.


Infallibility Debates
Eka Buddhi dasa answers Robert Newman

To quote Robert Newman, "Such debates are intrinsically useless." I beg to differ on this one point, on all other points he makes, I would just like to say ditto. The debates between the Niscala side and the Umpati-Nikhilananda side are important in that they allow those who might sense that there are different levels of valid understanding to actually see how people interact in these situations.


Painful Blasphemy
Nikhilananda Dasa replies to 
Radha Vallabha DD

If insult to Srila Prabhupada is not an issue for readers of this web page, I am definitely in the wrong place here. For me, this has been the only issue. I have no opinion on all the other things. The last thing that ever concerned me was the size or weight of anyone’s brain in this world. God knows that I have really more important problems in life to take care of. Others may be able to spend weeks on the internet and split hairs; I won’t.


What Is Wrong with 
Making Mistakes?

by Maharani Devi Dasi

Many thanks to Nikhilananda Prabhu for his generous response to my article. I don’t want him to be misled, though. I don’t think that all of Srila Prabhupada’s words are perfect. I don’t even claim to know all of them, so that I can say with confidence that they are all perfect.


Karuna Is Mercy
by Nikhilananda Dasa

I have studied the text by Karuna Prabhu on genders and races once again. After thinking about it more deeply, I feel sorry that I criticized his article. I think he made a valid and good observation, which is based on shastra. Only the end of it, which offers different choices of bodies, I did not like too much because some may misunderstand it as implying a sense of racial superiority. 


ISKCON’s 15th Annual 
Vraja Mandal Parikrama, 
Part 1 

by Lokanath Swami

On the first day of Kartika, devotees began the 15th Annual Vraja Mandal Parikrama. We will be roaming around the 12 forests of Vraja for one month. We began on the 1st of November 2001 with an early morning parikrama of Vrndavan. Later, in the afternoon the devotees taking part did their Sankalpa, they vowed to complete the parikrama.


No Mercy?
Karuna das replies to 
Nikhilananda Prabhu

The question I posted was intended to provoke thought indeed. Do you want to fight abuse? Then you must first establish why is there abuse. There is no need for scriptural evidence for that. All you need to be is intelligent. Abuse means someone superior is taking advantage of this superiority to molest those who are less fortunate. Otherwise there is just no question of abuse.


Defending the Person
Umapati Swami answers Chota Haridasa

Do you deny spiritual realization? It is mentioned again and again in the scriptures. Srimad Bhagavatam tells us that great sages such as Narada, Dhruva, Prahlada, and Citraketu saw and heard the Lord but not that they became "critical thinkers," at least not critical of their spiritual masters. Can you show me any instance of a great sage being critical of his spiritual master?


Literalism vs Essence
by Ramacandra das

Thank you for addressing the question concerning literalism vs essence. It is not the differences in presentation of the acharya I am concerned with, Maharaja, but rather my personal understanding of the Bhagavata Purana or, for that matter, the Vedas in general. Any uncertainty in this area can be quite damaging and a Pandora's box of questions and doubts can open, thus staggering a simple minded but faithful follower.


Good Culture (in Reply to 
Maharani Devi Dasi)

by Nikhilananda Dasa

If Niscala actually wanted to make a case for good culture, then she should have shown a good example herself, by being more respectful in the mentioning of the name of our spiritual master, Srila Prabhupada. Since Niscala had the nerve to make such bold statments on Srila Prabhupada and her first articles tried to teach us that Srila Prabhupada makes "mistakes," she should have the courage now, to honestly admit her previous error and apologize.


Friends of the GBC
by Krsna dasa

I am disappointed that you have deleted the subheading "We are friends of GBC,..." (I don’t remember the exact words). Why should we afraid to let it be known where we stand? Even if we are friends of GBC, it doesn’t necessarily mean that we support (or agree with) them on everything. We can still have our views, but we are friends — Srila Prabhupada wants them to be followed. 


We Should Not Avoid Controversy
by Radhavallabha Devi Dasi

I am not for or against Niscala prabhu in the debate, I'm just following it. However, I noticed that you used this quote to dispatch her questions, but it would be more compelling to me if you were to show with logic and reason how her position is "whimsical," since that seems a key consideration in Srila Prabhupada's point above.

Not Bhakti
by Ksamabuddhi das

This ongoing debate appearing on Chakra has nothing to do with devotional service. Women who violate Vaishnava etiquette and the sannyasis who debate with them in a public forum should all be ignored in the devotee community. Women in Vaishnavism are expected to maintain the Vedic etiquette pertaining to women as are sannyasis. A public debate between the two is offensive to any and all people who come to Chakra for good news about events and activities of the Krishna conciousness movement.


Logic, Fallacy, and False Virtue
by Chota Haridas

Maharaja's response was to defend the position/authority/infallibility of Srila Prabhupada. And that's fine, if that's all he can muster as a response. But consider this: His whole angle was a fallacy—an error of logic. And since he raised that specific question of his "logic" to Amara Prabhu, I'm raising it to question the very premise of Maharaja's logic. 


Solid Faith in Shastra
by Nikhilananda Dasa

"He who discards scriptural injunctions and acts according to his own whims attains neither perfection, nor happiness, nor the supreme destination." (Bhagavad-gita 16.23)

"But ignorant and faithless persons who doubt the revealed scriptures do not attain God consciousness; they fall down. for the doubting soul there is happiness neither in this world nor in the next. " (Bhagavad-gita 4.40)


Still No Word on the 
Spiritual Importance of Brain Size

by Maharani devi dasi

Maharaja is quite correct when he says that we should look at the big picture instead of singling out various statements. But when he implies that such statements are to be given equal weight with Srila Prabhupada's spiritual instructions (which he has illuminated so nicely in the exchange between Srila Prabhupada and Kirtanananda), Umapati Swami is doing a disservice to Srila Prabhupada and the entire movement.


Humanitarian Welfare Work: 
An Integral Aspect of Preaching

By Jagadananda das

Devotees are said to be compassionate because despite personal difficulty, they try to distribute the knowledge by which this relationship can be nurtured. Those who have been preaching Krishna consciousness know how difficult this is. I would like to propose humanitarian acts as a process both for preaching Krishna consciousness and for developing the compassion that is an integral part of Krishna consciousness.


Let the Sun Shine
by Karuna Das

I was very pleased to read Maharani Devi Dasi's article "The Misuse of Blind Following." This is exactly the line of thought I was trying to bring forth. Srila Prabhupada has warned us repeatedly about the danger of trying to make this a perfect world. It has been exactly the promotion of gender and race equality based on the body which has brought forth a disguised form of legal abuse.


Prabhupada and Compassion
by Thakur Haridas das

Since I lack intelligence and devotion there is no need to express my own views. However, I am fortunate to have a new book by Satsvarupa dasa Goswami, called Vaisnava Compassion, which is relevant to the dynamic of the exchanges. From the Chapter "Reaping the Fruits and Learning to Live With Them," I humbly offer some excerpts for the consideration of thoughtful devotees.


Blacks and Slavery
by Haravapu dasa

I am sure Krsna Avatara did not mean to criticize Srila Prabhupada or ISKCON in the way that you imply. These devotees have been hurt and so they lash out, but actually it is a cry for help and understanding. We need to give that understanding in a compassionate and loving way. By doing this the victimized devotee will feel relieved and will continue in his service to Krsna with renewed vigor and will be happy to be a part of ISKCON.


Karuna with No Mercy? 
(In Reply to Karuna)

by Nikhilananda Dasa

I strongly disagree with the contents of Karuna's article. There is a racist touch to his conclusions which is not characteristic of the followers of Srila Prabhupada and which does not conform to the conclusions of Srila Prabhupada's teachings. The name "Karuna" usually means "mercy" or "compassion." There is however a lack of mercy and instead a cruel arrogance visible in his article which gives me cold shudders when I think of it.


The Great Debate
by Robert Newman

One group, exemplified by Mother Niscala, believes that the teachings of Srila Prabhupada should be subjected to critical thinking and, if such analysis indicates that a particular teaching is incorrect, it should be rejected. The other group, exemplified by Umapati Swami, maintains that Srila Prabhupada's teachings are perfect, and therefore any rejection on the basis of critical thinking is not a valid option for a devotee.